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CO
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POLL: So Who Bought Them & Who Didn't? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
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17-Sep-2006, 8:51 AM
Originally posted by: Fuser
CO: The fact that SW is only 'flavour of the month' for your nephew and other kids all over the world, is that there is so much ELSE to watch and be into. It is well documented that SW filled a void in fun adventure films in the late 70s which is why it made such an impact on us. There was only ONE movie to go and see that year. But this time round it is different - POTC as you mentioned for one. The Matrix when PT was out. SW isnt on its own this time - it is having to share kids time with other stuff.


I respectfully disagree, I still think it comes down to quality, and that is why the PT is the 'flavor' of the month, or 'flavor' of the summer for my nephew and many of his friends.

SW in 1977 wowed me then and wows me now cause it is a great fuckin movie, plain & simple. ESB wowed me in 1980 and wows me now cause it is a great fuckin movie. ROTJ was always very good, but even today I just look at is the last leg of the trilogy, so it gets a pass.

The difference is my nephew saw the saga 1-6, and TPM was his first experience with SW, and though he did like it, he never loved it. He kept watching the saga as the story of Anakin Skywalker, and that does a huge disservice when getting to 4,5,6 cause I never watched the OT movies for Anakin Skywalkers tragedy, I watched it for the good guys.

The bottom line for me is SW '77 is my favorite movie of all-time, and ESB is #2 on my list, cause they are movies that are better than anything in the genre that have ever come out. Growing up I enjoyed Star Trek II, III, IV, Superman I & II, Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Terminator and Alien 1 & 2, so there was competition for SW with quality fantasy movies, but even though I love those movies, they don't come close to the OT movies.

The difference between this generation of SW fans is that they are not going to look back at TPM 20 years from now the way we looked at SW in 1997, and there is one reason for that: QUALITY. A great movie has to pass the test of time, and TPM & AOTC are not great movies, even to PT fans. The only movie that I hear PT fans rave about is ROTS, and one great movie does not make a trilogy.

I remember in 1989 and when Batman came out with Michael Keaton and there was nothing that year that competed with it as it blew the competition away that summer. I saw it and I like it, but looking at the movie 17 years later as it was on HBO this summer, it is an OK movie, but the quality just isn't there that makes it a great movie, and that is why the movie is not resonating with me years later.

The PT movies just aren't as great as the OT movies, no matter what the PT gushers say, and that goes a long way in why my nephew is not a SW junkie like I was even after 1983 when SW was supposedly dead. The problem is by seeing the saga 1-6, it is just an interesting story with some great films and some bad films, so how can he fall in love with that? What would make him wake up on a Saturday morning and say, "Geez, I am in the mood to watch TPM or AOTC today, I have been dying to watch them!!!!" He won't do it cause the replay value of those movies is not great, cause they are not great movies, they are just part of the story now 1-6 that drag down the saga now.

For me growing up, I WANTED to watch any OT movie anytime, cause even though they were a trilogy, the movies were that good that they could stand on their own for individual enjoyment. TPM was made knowing that there were two movies to come, so Lucas just made it as a setup movie to the PT, and that is why it is just that, and when it comes to replay value, who the hell wants to watch a setup movie when you can finish the trilogy that day?

I just don't buy the argument that the competition is what makes the PT different, cause a classic movie will always stand the test of time, no matter how long it takes.