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This is all I wanted. I'm happy, no need for another OOT release EVER for me!

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Official release of the OOT, cool. Animorphic, shmanimorphic. I have a widescreen TV, but I actually got used to the black bars and get this, LOVE seeing black bars on widescreen movies.

So this OOT release is sweet for me and is all I'll ever need. Didn't buy it yet, but I will soon. I'll probably sell my old 2004 DVDs, but not the bonus disc. This is how I always envisioned to have the OT sets. As two disc sets, just like the PT. Disc one, the better (IMO) 2004 SSE, and disc two being the theatrical. As a matter of fact, here's a link to DVD Talk, where I created, back in 05-14-05, or so, custom covers for two disc sets. much like these new releases, way, way, way before they were announced.

I love the SEs in every way (except the mistakes) and I will get newer versions of those to better match the PT, but for me the OOT will always be inferior, even though I was one year old when Star Wars was first released. Yeah, its nice to have them, but I like the movies looking like they were made AFTER the PT, which I love as well. I'll probably watch the old versions occasionally, but I do prefer the newer lusasized versions. I only with they did A New Hope like the editdroid with the selectable crawl.
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Originally posted by: marioxb
Official release of the OOT, cool. Animorphic, shmanimorphic. I have a widescreen TV, but I actually got used to the black bars and get this, LOVE seeing black bars on widescreen movies.

Are you saying you love watching letterbox movies in normal mode, i.e. with bars on all four sides of the picture? The top and bottom bars are present on these movies whether they're presented in anamorphic or not.

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If you have a widescreen TV and zoom in, you still get black bars, but the size of the bars are cut in half and the picture is larger. That is much better than watching it in 16:9 or 4:3.
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Originally posted by: JennyS1138
If you have a widescreen TV and zoom in, you still get black bars, but the size of the bars are cut in half and the picture is larger. That is much better than watching it in 16:9 or 4:3.


You have no idea what you are talking about.


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Originally posted by: Marvolo
You have no idea what you are talking about.


Zooming in on the picture and slightly cutting off the black bars isn't better than watching it all tiny on a 4:3 or stretched and deformed to 16:9?

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I don't zoom in at all. Black bars, top and bottom= good. Bars on left and right= bad.
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Originally posted by: marioxb
Disc one, the better (IMO) 2004 SSE...

Are you sure you're posting at the right forum?

Neil

Well at least the reversed surround channels have been addressed.

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Ya know, at this point I wouldn't mind having a 16x9 display with black bars on all four sides. It beats the frelling overscaninng on my 40" 4x3 TV that absofreakinglutely ruins the opening crawl that I've been looking forward to for decades. Bah.

With non-anamorphic letterboxing on a widescreen display, I could at least see 100% of the sides, and the crawl would appear properly. As things now stand, till money rolls in like rain, I'm reduced to watching my new DVD on my computer display, while my useless 40" TV screen sits blank in the background.


Grrr.

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Your overscan can't be that terribly bad, can it?

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Yeah, the words on either far end of the crawl do not appear to emerge from the bottom of the screen, as they are supposed to. Rather, they emerge from the sides of the screen, because the edges of the picture are eliminated to the degree that the words on either side of the text crawl are cut off until they "crawl" further up and recede into outer space.


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Originally posted by: Zion
OK, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. You say you have a widescreen TV and you are not zooming in. That would mean that these LETTERBOX DVDs are sitting in the middle of your TV like this with bars on all sides:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i139/zombie__84/non-anamorphic.jpg
(credit goes to zombie for posting this on TFN)

If you aren't using zoom, this is what your screen looks like.


I don't zoom my 16x9 TV and it doesn't have the lines on the side, and this is because it has a default "Full" mode. The "Full" mode only stretches the image to fit the screen rather than zooming it in.


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So you destroy the OAR and happily watch Fat Luke, Chubby Leia, and Chewbacca the Wide Wookiee?
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Yeah I don't get the bars on the sides of mine either, even w/o using the Zoom.
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I don't ever have side bars on my TV unless they are grey bars when I set the TV to 4:3 mode, which I NEVER do. I really don't understand how people come up with this black bars on the sides thing. It you watched a letterbox movie on a 4x3 tv, that's the exact way it looks on my widescreen TV. Black bars top and bottom, no streching. I also keep my DVD player in letterbox mode.
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
So you destroy the OAR and happily watch Fat Luke, Chubby Leia, and Chewbacca the Wide Wookiee?


I will hardly watch them on my 32" LCD, and when I do I will watch them in "Zoom"mode instead of "Full" mode. The only reson why I made my earlier statement was to let Zion know that with some T.V.s you don't have to zoom to get rid of the side lines.


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Getting rid of the bars and watching something in the correct aspect ratio are two different things. Most widescreen TVs have several modes for stretching 4:3 material to fill up the screen, but most of them use some method of leaving the middle of the screen unstretched while stretching out the sides. If you can't tell the difference while you're in the "fish eye" mode, then more power to you. But at least realize that the only way to view a letterbox source in the correct aspect ratio is to watch it in normal "postage stamp" mode as pictured above, or to use zoom. All modes aside from the normal mode, be it "full", "zoom", or what have you, stretch the picture.

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Originally posted by: Zion
Getting rid of the bars and watching something in the correct aspect ratio are two different things. Most widescreen TVs have several modes for stretching 4:3 material to fill up the screen, but most of them use some method of leaving the middle of the screen unstretched while stretching out the sides. If you can't tell the difference while you're in the "fish eye" mode, then more power to you. But at least realize that the only way to view a letterbox source in the correct aspect ratio is to watch it in normal "postage stamp" mode as pictured above, or to use zoom. All modes aside from the normal mode, be it "full", "zoom", or what have you, stretch the picture.


If you are refering to me, then let me clarify. I know how to watch it in its OAR on an LCD T.V. I never brought up OAR, anyways. The the type of "zoom" option I was refering to is called "Wide Zoom" , which leaves the center regular, stretches the edges, and zooms the whole image just enough to get rid of the side lines.


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I only have a 4:3 TV, so I've learned to ignore the black bars.

I love the grainy imperfect look this release has. It makes me feel more like I'm back in '77.
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"I love the grainy imperfect look this release has. It makes me feel more like I'm back in '77."

Star Wars didn't look "grainy" and "imperfect" back in 1977 in the theaters....it only looked that way in it's various VHS and Laser home video incarnations from the mid 80's onward.

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Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
Ya know, at this point I wouldn't mind having a 16x9 display with black bars on all four sides. It beats the frelling overscaninng on my 40" 4x3 TV that absofreakinglutely ruins the opening crawl that I've been looking forward to for decades. Bah.

With non-anamorphic letterboxing on a widescreen display, I could at least see 100% of the sides, and the crawl would appear properly. As things now stand, till money rolls in like rain, I'm reduced to watching my new DVD on my computer display, while my useless 40" TV screen sits blank in the background.


Grrr.


You get overscan on anamorphic movies though, for 16x9 tvs unless you're using a projector. That's where a DVD player with XY scaling comes in handy or step by step zoom. I think Malata makes a model that does XY scaling still. My Momitsu does both, but it's finicky on DVD-Rs sometimes, especially DVD9s, even retail ones.
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Originally posted by: Harlock415
You get overscan on anamorphic movies though, for 16x9 tvs unless you're using a projector.
Or LCD. Or Plasma.

But then again, the movie was made for a cinema screen, not a tv screen. cinemas don't have over-scan (well... I think we all know they do... but they're not meant to). Anyway, IMO it's better to have the picture extend all the way to the side of the screen, and lose a little bit to over-scan, then it is to encase it in black borders all movie long.
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At least you get the full OAR with pillarboxing - you can always sit closer to the screen.