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Star Wars Episode III: The Establishing Shot Strikes Back!

I swear that half of that damn movie is made up of establishing shots. Almost every cut is a 30 second long establishing shot. How many different angles can they show the Jedi Temple from? And no matter which angle they use, it looks the same. Establishing shots AND shots of landing or arriving space ships! Jesus christ! How many landing or fly-by shots were there?!
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It simply a necessity of the fact that there are so many scenes and locations.
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Because Sith had the burden of tying a billion loose ends in two and a half hours. An impossible task, obviously, and that's why the movie and the entire PT sucks

(If anyone thinks the PT is not that bad, stop breathing the gasoline)
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Originally posted by: zombie84
It simply a necessity of the fact that there are so many scenes and locations.




I disagree. Once you've established a location, there is no need to contiually, and in every other scene, re-establish it in a wide sweeping shot. I literally got bored watching all the damn establishing shots, and I swear it sounded like they used the same music cue for all of them. We all know what the Jedi Temple looks like. We all know what the Senate looks like. We all know what Padme's apartment looks like. Hell, there were even establishing shots of space.

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Any college freshman in film school can spot the insanely bloated and unnecessary establishing shots in not only Ep.III, but Ep. II as well. And it's not just limited to establishing shots. The editing on Sith is about as "amateur night" as it gets. People who feel otherwise, literally don't understand the basics of the craft of editing, which while having evolved over decades, still retains the same basic principles it has for more than 100 years of filmmaking. It's not just the unforgivably bad direction, poorly developed story, and laughable dialogue; the film fails on such basic technical levels I can't believe it was produced by veteran professionals. Actually, it wasn't.

_Mike

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Originally posted by: mverta Any college freshman in film school can spot the insanely bloated and unnecessary establishing shots in not only Ep.III, but Ep. II as well. And it's not just limited to establishing shots. The editing on Sith is about as "amateur night" as it gets. People who feel otherwise, literally don't understand the basics of the craft of editing, which while having evolved over decades, still retains the same basic principles it has for more than 100 years of filmmaking. It's not just the unforgivably bad direction, poorly developed story, and laughable dialogue; the film fails on such basic technical levels I can't believe it was produced by veteran professionals. Actually, it wasn't.

_Mike


I’m willing to bet that George would justify the editing by saying that it was in keeping with the serials. He’s justified every amateur thing he’s done with the Star Wars films. He explains away plot hole by invoking the force and he dismisses campy dialog by reminiscing about Flash Gordon. I think it’s funny that George justifies juvenile practices by inferring that his audience lacks sophistication.

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I agree completely about the establishing shots. It felt like an incredibly long episode of ST:TNG and not much like a movie at all.

Otherwise, there was a very confusing mess of locations and characters which constantly had to be re-established every 5 minutes because of all the loose ends that generalfrevious mentioned. Making that even worse, however, was the way George Lucas was compelled to totally ruin every possible feature of the Star Wars universe. In other words he felt the need to tie loose ends that weren't even related to the main story for no other reason than to spoil their mystique. For some unfathomable reason he couldn't leave even the tiniest of story elements ambigious for our sake. He's twisted and evil.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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the film fails on such basic technical levels I can't believe it was produced by veteran professionals. Actually, it wasn't.


Then by whom?

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my fave has always been...

Star Wars - Episode III: Let's Get This Shit Over With

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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
This thread got off topic fast....


No, it didn't. The topic of the thread was established in the first post, not the thread name. This thread is about the overabundance of establishing shots in EpIII, and that is what the posts have been addressing.

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