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cbaka,
Nice clip!
The camera shake certainly helps!
Not sure about the lightning impact effect, but it's still cool just the same!

Yeah, if there was a way to remove the smoke and/or make it disappear quickly...
I'm thinking about when the queens ship gets hit in TPM...Because of the speed the ship is going, the explosion kind of quickly falls behind...If I'm remembering correctly...

Again on the camera shake:
Maybe this is too much, but what if the camera began to rumble just a bit as the star destroyer (opening shot) moves above the screen?

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Also, I am curious whether you are painting out tow cables that the crew pulled the droids with through the sand. The one that passes infront of Luke and 3PO during the night scene is really obvious.


Please post screenshots - everyone says it's really obvious but I've never been able to find it.

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her's some shots where Adywan or DE can do somethin
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m279/cbaka_2006/SWc1.jpg
scratchin view, no aurabesh
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m279/cbaka_2006/SWc2.jpg

the one that sluggo talkin bout
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m279/cbaka_2006/SWc3.jpg

rocks support the speeder
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m279/cbaka_2006/SWc4.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m279/cbaka_2006/SWc5.jpg
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Looks like I was beaten to it. Thanks cbaka! Closer inspection looks like it is just wheel tracks from a previous take. Still, it looks weird to me.
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cbaka, that explosion looks really great, well done even for a rough edit

"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-

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Nice ideas. I've uploaded the first few minutes of my ANH with a "rough" new audio mix. SomethingStarWarsRelated, you'll see that a couple of the ideas for fixes you mentioned have alrady been implimented. We must be on the same wavelength. lol. Hope you like the new tantive IV explosion.

I have been thinking about removing the rocks that hold up Lukes speeder but the problem is that they obscure part of the Sandpeople. The foreground one would be almost impossible, but because one walks behing it, it doesn't look like its holding it up. I may be able to remove the other one though. I would just have to animate the lower part of the Tusken.

The "ropes" pulling the droids should be easy enough to eliminate. the one Sluggo mentioned definately needs fixing though. It does look like its tracks left by a previous take and just looks out of place. Especially when the driod doesn't seem to be leaving tracks as heavy behind it as it moves.

the macrobinoculars i won't be doing anything with. I think the dated look fits in perfect with the technology on tatooine.
I'm also working on removing the "matte lines" on the dunes. I'm not sure if they are matte lines or not, but they stand out a little too much.

Ok, I'm gonna carry on with some more work. I'm tweaking a few of the aliens in the cantina, adding mouth movements, blinks etc, and fixing the severed arm shot too. no more blood and the correct hand.
hope you enjoy the clip.

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Yes! Very nice explosion (and camera shake too right?)! Man, that explosion helps that shot so much! I like how it comes close to filling the frame, but, of course, then cuts to the droids.

As far as the "rough" new audio mix: This is harder for me to tell because of my little speakers on my laptop. BUT I did notice a few things. The sound effects seem to be a little more quiet, which, in this case, is good!

I'm tweaking a few of the aliens in the cantina, adding mouth movements, blinks etc, and fixing the severed arm shot too. no more blood and the correct hand.

This is great! lol, I was going to suggest this very thing!

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nice work adywan, tatooine is moving , "the RB trajectory" is better now, but the explosion is too "big", imperials wants just to stop the rebels ship, so a little explosion and effects or somethin like that may be better..just an opinion..any idea ?
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Originally posted by: cbaka
nice work adywan, tatooine is moving , "the RB trajectory" is better now, but the explosion is too "big", imperials wants just to stop the rebels ship, so a little explosion and effects or somethin like that may be better..just an opinion..any idea ?


i had to keep the explosion to around the same size as the original because the front end of the Tantive IV was lost in the original blast. i tried overlaying a new front end and make the explosion smaller but the perspective looked completely wrong and spoiled the shot. i might give it another shot but at the moment i'm concentrating on other sections

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Originally posted by: adywan

Ok, I'm gonna carry on with some more work. I'm tweaking a few of the aliens in the cantina, adding mouth movements, blinks etc, and fixing the severed arm shot too. no more blood and the correct hand.
hope you enjoy the clip.


Speaking of incorrect hands, Greedo's are also different from the original shoot and the ILM reshoots. Could we talk you into looking into those as well?
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yep, understand, i've tryin to do somethin, but definetly that's the problem, i've eleminated some debries and smoke all around(haaard work), what if just to focuse on the impact and add a little explosion, i've use a CG RB passby (that i've picked somewhere but it' doesn't work, i've in mind another idea, meanwhile here's somethin that i've done about luke's speeder in the canyon
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luke's speeder in the canyon
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Adywan,

Did you get my PM regarding a volunteer for the 3-D model of the Death Star?

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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I was thinking more about the Tantive IV explosion scene. On top of camera shake and enhancing the hit the other thing that I think would make it look better is to have the ship react to the explosion. Just after the ship is hit and the explopsion occurs, the ship loses control a bit. I made what can only amount to a animatic using footage from the DVD. It's short and just a proof of concept. If the idea were to be done I think it would have to be achieved by recreating the shot using CG animation, but I think it would add something to the scene.

Here's a Yousendit link to my idea: Tantive IV Rough Concept

The other thing that I have always wanted to see in Star Wars is the Tractor Beam. In Star Trek you seam a beam(s) of light shining onto the ship to show the effect, but in Star Wars you don't see anything. I would love to see an actual tractor beam, something in the vein of Star Trek would be great although it doesn't have to be, added to the shot of Tantive IV in the beginning, and to the Millenium Falcon later in the movie.
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Rebel11_38,
Yeah, I've thought about a tractor beam as well...
You certainly wouldn't want to copy star trek, but you might not be able to get away from that...
Everyone kind of knows what it's "suppose" to look like. It has a faint glow that might flicker on and off...at least that's how I picture it.
You would also want the sound effect to go along with the special effect, ya know? They would need to "meld".
I do like the idea, though!

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How come the red lasers have a yellow core? You probably mentioned this already but I can't find it.
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one more thing before I forget-

when ever the falcon is hit by a blast from the outside, it rocks the whole ship. but whenever the same thing happens while the scene is inside the cockpit, the cockpit bounces like it isn't attached to the rest of the ship. it is on the far edge of the hull of the ship and ought to act like it is over there. this make sense? its past my bed time...
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Ok, I've redone the tantive explosion. Its much smaller now and i added Rebel11_38's suggestion of the tantive losing control slightly (great idea by the way. thanks). i've also added the engines shutting down after its hit.

Now about the tractor beam. This was one thing that was originally going to be something i wa going to add but a problem arose later in the movie. If i added a visible tractor beam, then why would Luke ask "why are we still moving towards it?" when the death star has the falcon in a tractor beam. Surely he would be able to see the beam. A way around it would be that the death star has a different type of tractor beam to the stardestroyers and is invisible, but that excuse seems like a cop-out to me so it's highly unlikely that i will be adding the tractor beam.

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Speaking of incorrect hands, Greedo's are also different from the original shoot and the ILM reshoots. Could we talk you into looking into those as well?
Hmm. that would be a tough one to do, probably impossible, but i'll look into it later.
Originally posted by: Sluggo
one more thing before I forget-
when ever the falcon is hit by a blast from the outside, it rocks the whole ship. but whenever the same thing happens while the scene is inside the cockpit, the cockpit bounces like it isn't attached to the rest of the ship. it is on the far edge of the hull of the ship and ought to act like it is over there. this make sense? its past my bed time...

Another hard one to fix. I'll try a motion fix & see how it goes. it would have been easier if it wasn't done on-set though, so another one that may be impossible to do.
Originally posted by: DarthBalls1138
How come the red lasers have a yellow core? You probably mentioned this already but I can't find it.

They always had a yellow core but its been lost in the clean-up. If you look back on one of the pages then you see i posted a picture of an x-wing that still had its orginal core. All i've done is restore them to how they were supposed to look.

Nice speeder clip by the way cbaka

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Close to the goal !! adywan, the hit, the shakin, all is good, i love the engines shutting down after its hit, great idea, not entirely sure bout the explosion, too much fire,(can you share the clip without the explosion, i'll tryin something else), agree with you for the tractor beam, no color !
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Originally posted by: cbaka
Close to the goal !! adywan, the hit, the shakin, all is good, i love the engines shutting down after its hit, great idea, not entirely sure bout the explosion, too much fire,(can you share the clip without the explosion, i'll tryin something else), agree with you for the tractor beam, no color !

Unfortunately i have no longer got the clip without the explosion. It was created using filmstrips with layers and once the effect was finished it was merged then saved as it is now, so overwriting the original without the explosion. sorry

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Adywan,

I don't really care for what you've done with the Tantive in this clip. The ship losing control looks skewed somehow and the explosion doesn't look right. I'm sure it's part of the work in progress, but some of your other clips have been better. Not that I could even begin to do an edit... Just my own observation.
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Adywan, really liked what you did with the ship losing control. In my example I really exaggerated the movement, but I think your less is more approach is better. I agree about what has been said about the explosion though. It looks a little too layered, and I don't think it blends as well as it could with the rest of the footage. I know this is just a test though, so I'm sure the final product is going to be excellent.

I had considered the objection about the tractor beam before I posted here. My reasoning for Liuke's question had two possible answers. One, he's just a farm boy and wouldn't know much about what a tractor beam would look like. Or, the tractor beam does look different than the one earlier. If you go with the first explanation, then they two beams could be the same. If you go with the second, I thought that the DS tractor beam could actually envelop the Falcon. Meaning that the ship is surrounded by a small glow as it is being pulled toward the station. In this way, you wouldn't really notice the small glow through the cockpit, but you would see it in the wide shot. In either case, Han's reply can just be seen as him explaining what the deal is to Luke who either doesn't know what the beam is or who can't see what is happening to the ship.
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OK, I hope it doesn't sound like I'm praising everything you do adywan, but SWEET!!!
I do see the advantage to the smaller revised explosion...we can't have the rebels blowing up too soon now can we?
Yes, I'll admit the actual explosion is a little funky, but I'd rather have that new revised shot than what we have now!
LOVE the engines shutting down!

Rebel11_38, I like your reasoning behind the tractor beam, but I also see where adywan is coming from...hard to decide...

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I have to say that i agree with what has been said about the explosion. It was the same overlayed explosion i used for the first version but scaled down it doesn't blend in as well as the first. It was only a test render but i find that if something isn't working with the elements used after the first few stages then no amount of work is going to fix it. better to find different sources. I'm searching through all my dvd's now to find an explosion that will better suit it. I'm gonna put thi shot on hold for a while until i can get it to a level of which i am satisfied with.

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