Again, you're assuming that actual torture took place. From what I've heard, the CIA-run prisons and Guantanmo Bay have adequate facilities and are not mistreating the prisoners.
Well there's no way to check, which makes it suspicious. Why can't people from the red cross visit? What are they hiding? It's far from normal what's going on there. Why can't these people be held in the U.S. itself and get a fair trial? Clearly the world is not allowed to know what's going on there, and I think that's for one reason only: things happen there that are way out of line.
If there is anything that can be classified as actual torture, then no, I don't approve. But until then, mere rough treatment or unpleasant questioning techniques are not enough for me to object.
(Torture to me would be them actively inflicting bodily harm on the prisoners. Putting them under a hot lamp or depriving them of water for a few hours doesn't qualify in my mind. I'm not sure what the allegations of torture are saying has actually taken place, as everytime I hear it it is always vauge.)
Well there's no way to check, which makes it suspicious. Why can't people from the red cross visit? What are they hiding? It's far from normal what's going on there. Why can't these people be held in the U.S. itself and get a fair trial? Clearly the world is not allowed to know what's going on there, and I think that's for one reason only: things happen there that are way out of line.
If there is anything that can be classified as actual torture, then no, I don't approve. But until then, mere rough treatment or unpleasant questioning techniques are not enough for me to object.
(Torture to me would be them actively inflicting bodily harm on the prisoners. Putting them under a hot lamp or depriving them of water for a few hours doesn't qualify in my mind. I'm not sure what the allegations of torture are saying has actually taken place, as everytime I hear it it is always vauge.)
I don't think we really have a difference of opinion. But I only think you can treat someone like you described if he is convicted in a fair trial.