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Originally posted by: adywan
Well i'm having a few days break from the effects work and concentrating on the task of colour correction. I've almost finsihed the Tantive IV sequences and its looking pretty good. just a few more tweaks to do. Its really hard to get the right balance between shots as it keeps changing levels. i doubt i'm going to be able to get it exactly right, but it's still going to look better than that horrible blue tint the DVD has.


Wow I didnt know you were going to do color correction as well, your crazy but in a good way


If its too much to go into its fine but I was wondering whats your prcoess to correcting the colors and other technical mishaps with lightsabers?

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Speaking of displays...

One of the things that bugged me about the continuity between the PT and OT was that the PT's fighter ships, even Anakin's junk pile podracer of course have better displays with all sorts of lcd screens with information on them than any ship in the Ot including the millenium falcon. Of course it's just another sign of how GL didn't really care about continuity details like that. So I think it'd be cool to replace every single display screen in every ship with some updated version. Maybe instead of triangles flying around a grid, they can be actual ships flying around a 3d millenium falcon diagram?

stuff like that...
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adywan.

your shot of threepio on the tantive doesn't look quite right to me. yes threepio is golden, but at the expense of yellow tinting the tantive white walls behind him.

you've obviously colour corrected but to my eye it looks like a little too much in that direction.

when I did the tantive.

I used the white balance filter in Vdub set to 235 235 235 custom value and exported the tantive sequence scene cut by scene cut.

I then used colour correction in vegas.
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Wesyeed:

You certainly have a point about the displays, but instead of "upgrading" everything in the OT, would it not be preferable to "downgrade" the effects of the PT? Trooperman is doing this to the Slave 1 in "Shroud of the Dark Side" and I think it's an excellent idea that works on two levels: 1) Brings some technological continuity to the trilogies (as you pointed out, something that is currently lacking) and 2) As fan editors, it is much easier to simplify than to enhance. Any alteration of displays is difficult, but I'd imagine plugging in an Atari-looking display in the PT would be easier to do than working a sophisticated CGI schematic into the OT. (And in addition to all that I think we're all alot more comfortable changing things in the prequels then we are in the originals). Just something to think about.
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I agree with tellan about the 3PO image. 3PO looks amazing but the corridor is yellow.


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Just seen the trailer and the alderaan explosion.

Here's my thoughts:

The Alderaan Explosion looks great. However I'd suggest not putting any PT characters in there and rather using a pure scenery shot from the ending of Ep III. It's too much of a distraction and as such it kinda lessens the impact of this very powerful scene.

Also if scene as a whole, it is kinda a cheap way of killing off characters that weren't used in the later trilogy anymore.


The Star Trek scenes look awesome! That really would be amazing.



Regarding the light sabers, I think the colours are still a little too weak.


The lasers from the fighters take some getting used to, but they look decent. Never bothered me on the official DVDs though.

Two scenes I didn't like were: The Falcon flying into the hangar. The glow has a very smooth edge and looks a bit unnatural.
And the tractor beam scene with the Matrix colours. Dunno, just didn't dig em.



Other than that, it's absolutely awesome! Think this will be THE edit to go with.
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
I agree with tellan about the 3PO image. 3PO looks amazing but the corridor is yellow.
yeh, its does look like the wall have a yellow tint. not sure how that happened because the gold colour was overlayed onto 3po and i didn't change the background colour at all but the whole colour correction process is turning out to be a pain in the ass.I'll give it another go.
Originally posted by: Amok
Just seen the trailer and the alderaan explosion.
The Alderaan Explosion looks great. However I'd suggest not putting any PT characters in there and rather using a pure scenery shot from the ending of Ep III. It's too much of a distraction and as such it kinda lessens the impact of this very powerful scene.
Also if scene as a whole, it is kinda a cheap way of killing off characters that weren't used in the later trilogy anymore.

There is a lot more added into that scene now and i'm also hoping to add a scene as the death star first approaches Alderaan. I'm not using the scene to kill off characters that ain't in the OT but using it to add to the horror of Alderaans destruction. In the scene prior to the destruction i will have the citizens of alderaan looking up to see the death star and Bail looking out from the balcony. i'm hoping to add some dialogue if i can find the right lines. All will become more clear once the scenes are together.
Regarding the light sabers, I think the colours are still a little too weak.
The lasers from the fighters take some getting used to, but they look decent. Never bothered me on the official DVDs though.
Two scenes I didn't like were: The Falcon flying into the hangar. The glow has a very smooth edge and looks a bit unnatural.
And the tractor beam scene with the Matrix colours. Dunno, just didn't dig em.

These were only prototype effects and none of the shots will look the same in the finished movie. Not sure what you mean by the matrix colours in the tractor beam scene though. All i have done to that is blend the Matte in better than it was origionally. all the colours remain exactly the same as the original.

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Originally posted by: adywan
Originally posted by: Marvolo
I agree with tellan about the 3PO image. 3PO looks amazing but the corridor is yellow.

yeh, its does look like the wall have a yellow tint. not sure how that happened because the gold colour was overlayed onto 3po and i didn't change the background colour at all but the whole colour correction process is turning out to be a pain in the ass.I'll give it another go.


In the 2004 version there is already a yellow tint on the wall behind Threepio. And yes the colour correcting aboard the tantive 4 is a pain in the ass. I'm currently experimenting with that myself. If i get the characters looking nice the background is way off and vice versa. I've currently got the carridors looking nice although the colours look slightly washed out. My main concern here is Artoo who seems to have black panels in a lot of these shots - the yellow tint doesn't bother me if it's faint enough to not draw my attention.

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OK, here's another idea to argue over:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/lookingAtMos.jpg
Obviously it would have to look alot better than the image I've created, but I thought it might be fun.
And it would certainly have to not be distracting like the image above. The image I've created fills way too much of the frame...and it distracts from Luke & co.
But, again, all in fun!


As far as displays screens go: I can see both sides of the arguement.
I don't really like the idea of putting in LCD screeens in ANH. But updating a *little* would be nice.
Because even the displays in ESB and ROTJ look better than ANH.
At the very least, put in some subtle sound fx for the death-star-trench-plan with the rebels.
I don't think there are any sound fx in that scene.....right?

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Hey Adywan, I was wondering if you were going to correct any flip shots in the film, such as Vader's chest plate during the duel or painting out the white wire inside Obi-Wan's sleeve?

Also you may have mentioned it already but what's your color correction tool? The yellow tint in the corridor does seem to be something part of the DVD footage, despite the overly blue tint to the Tantive corridor. Has there been any success in isolating it?
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hi fans, here's a little shot of luke training in the falcon, i've redone the lightsaber, training ball'lazer, and the impact on luke's arm, that's just an "essai", i'm trying, to improve some ANH sequences, what do u think of it. thanks.(just click on the link below)

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SomethingStarWarsRelated, another nice idea. might have a play with that idea
Originally posted by: AvatarX
Hey Adywan, I was wondering if you were going to correct any flip shots in the film, such as Vader's chest plate during the duel or painting out the white wire inside Obi-Wan's sleeve?
Also you may have mentioned it already but what's your color correction tool? The yellow tint in the corridor does seem to be something part of the DVD footage, despite the overly blue tint to the Tantive corridor. Has there been any success in isolating it?
I am trying to fix many of the flip shots in ANH. Vaders chest plate is proving a little difficult to change, but i'm going to crack it but Vaders chest plate now has flashing lights to match the rest of the trilogy. I've switched to Vegas to do the colour correction as it seems to be a lot better than premier for this task. I've eliminated the blue tint but theres also red & greenish tints in some shots to fix now. How can Lucasfilm release the trilogy on VHS with great colours but then release it on DVd so messed up. What then hell has happened to their quality control.
Originally posted by: cbaka
hi fans, here's a little shot of luke training in the falcon, i've redone the lightsaber, training ball'lazer, and the impact on luke's arm, that's just an "essai", i'm trying, to improve some ANH sequences, what do u think of it. thanks.

Nice work, cbaka. what software are you using for the lightsabers?

Another couple of new bits i'm working on, apart from adding the lights to Vader's chest plate:
Added the missing center strut in the Millenium Falcon's cockpit window.
Added the hyperspace tunnel in the scene after they escape the Death Star (see pic below). Also added a shot of the Falcon exiting hyperspace as it reaches Yavin.
Added the missing cloak on the wall in Ben's house when he gives Luke his saber.

Things that i'm planning to do:
Changing the speederbike scene with the jawas. i'm keeping it in but the one Jawa's no longer falls off and the other one doesn't swing.
Re-edit the lightsaber duel to give it more pace.
Adding a new matte to the chasm swing scene to give a greater view of the depth of the chasm.
Add extra effects to the tie fighter battle so the Falcon doesn't just sit there as they attack.

One thing i really want to do, but just haven't got the skills yet to do it, is the Death Star schematics for the rebel breifing. the old atari graphics on a projector screen just doesn't fit in with the scematics in AOTC & ROTJ. I want to change it to a red hologram to match. I just need to learn now how to build a 3D model of the death star to match the one in AOTC. The trench schematics i can keep the same footage with some tweaking. If anyone can help with this then please don't hesitate to contact me. thanks


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thanks adywan, i'm using (novicely) after effects 6.0, with the Ryan Wieber method here's the link : http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/postproduction/sabres/sabertutorials.asp

well, here's another one :LukeStopLazer

i've replaced the training ball lazers, the impacts, and of course the lightsaber. what do you think of the glow, the colours etc..Thanks

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"...but Vaders chest plate now has flashing lights to match the rest of the trilogy."
-Wow! I didn't think something like that would be possible! Good luck!

"Added the hyperspace tunnel in the scene after they escape the Death Star (see pic below). Also added a shot of the Falcon exiting hyperspace as it reaches Yavin."
-Yeah! Can't wait to see a vid of this! Fun stuff!

"Changing the speederbike scene with the jawas. i'm keeping it in but the one Jawa's no longer falls off and the other one doesn't swing."
-Hmmm...that will be interesting. Go for it!

"Re-edit the lightsaber duel to give it more pace."
Ah! This is what I've been talking about! Not actually deleting scenes, but trimming a few shots here and there...pick up the pace.

"Adding a new matte to the chasm swing scene to give a greater view of the depth of the chasm."
-I could dig this too!

"Add extra effects to the tie fighter battle so the Falcon doesn't just sit there as they attack."
-Cool! Maybe put a planet in the background passing by? Oh! Maybe Mustafar?

"the old atari graphics on a projector screen just doesn't fit in with the scematics in AOTC & ROTJ. I want to change it to a red hologram to match."
-That change might be just enough to please the PT fans and not upset the OT fans.

cbaka: Those lightsabers look great! Very vibrant!

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Hey Adywan,

I don't usually look at or comment on people's "Special Edition" OT projects, but this one really does look great. My favorite part is actually the fact that you're color-correcting the DVD footage.

Keep up the great work!

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I can't remember if I said this before in this thread or not, but I really can't wait for this project. The Alderaan thing really excites me. I'm wary of you cutting anything for pace, because I believe the pacing of the flick is its strongest point, but I won't judge till I see.

One thing I wanted to ask is that since you're color correcting your version from the DVD, might you consider a separate release that's just a color-corrected version of the DVD?

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Adywan, have you tried http://scifi3d.com? They have a couple of Death Star models, but they are textured models, not just wireframes. Could you use those as references if and when you do make the wireframe Death Star schematic?
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Originally posted by: adywan
Added the hyperspace tunnel in the scene after they escape the Death Star (see pic below).


I think you should add some blue glow to the set and characters in these scenes, seeing as how the bright blue hyperspace tunnel is now right outside the window....
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Re-edit the lightsaber duel to give it more pace.

I was hoping you'd be addressing this. When experimenting with the duel for Starkiller Ranch I found that it improves dramatically by just cutting out the parts where Vader and Obi-Wan are stumbling around poking at each other. Something else I noticed was the amount of reversed shots, and not just obvious ones like Vader's chestplate. Be careful of the duelists changing hand position on their lightsabers, as they go from right-handed to left-handed grips and back again throughout the duel.

Very exciting news about the lights on Vader's chestplate! There may be nothing that can be done about his armor, but the lights will certainly go a long way into bringing continuity to his costume.

Changes to the gunport sequence are more than welcome! I've always found the TIE battle rather bland; the Falcon just hangs in space while a whopping FOUR TIE fighters buzz around it. I'm sure it was very exciting back in '77, but after seeing what spaceships could really do in ESB and RotJ, it's dare I say, boring.
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What exactly do you want to do for the DS schematic? rotating 3D wireframe as in Jedi and AotC, or a red wireframe scematic on the viewscreen? Interior with the reactor core, or just surface detail? It's not complicated to produce the assets, and I too think the SciFi 3D meshes should be adequate for your purposes here (just either render as wireframe, or use a wireframe material if you'll be working in Max, you can either produce the colour and glow in Max at render time, or, as I prefer to do, do it all in post in Vegas...just remember to include an alpha channel when you render).
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I like many of you have seen so many edits of these star wars films
but this one IS DIFFERENT as this once completed
is if any like the idea on this thread will be in a league of its own

as I'm editing Superman 2 also and i'm trying to bring new things into
I can really understand the amount of work that is going into the project
by the looks of it Far more than what I'm doing

I cant wait for this Project
its gonna look awesome



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Originally posted by: INv8r_ZIM
What exactly do you want to do for the DS schematic? rotating 3D wireframe as in Jedi and AotC, or a red wireframe scematic on the viewscreen? Interior with the reactor core, or just surface detail? It's not complicated to produce the assets, and I too think the SciFi 3D meshes should be adequate for your purposes here (just either render as wireframe, or use a wireframe material if you'll be working in Max, you can either produce the colour and glow in Max at render time, or, as I prefer to do, do it all in post in Vegas...just remember to include an alpha channel when you render).


I'm just after a transparent schematic with surface detail. I've never attempted using any 3D software but i'm gonna give it a go.

A quick update: I've scrapped the hyperspace cockpit scene that i posted the pic for. I just can't get the mattes to look good enough. I'm inserting an effects shot of the falcon leaving hyperspace instead. maybe when i have more knowledge of effects work i'll reinsert it, but for now its not going to be included.

I've also downloaded one of the deaths star models on 3d scifi and opened it up in 3DS max and I'm completely lost. i don't even know where to start. this is what i really want to recreate for the rebel briefing scene:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4267/deathstarplanslm3.jpg
I just need a transparent animation to overlay on the scene.I really don't think i can do this on my own so any hep will be greatly appreciated

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Adywan,

Just been looking at your clips again for the hundreth time.

Noticed during the Obi-Wan Vader fight that there is a powder coming off the sabers on some blows. obviously this was the pratical prop at the time coming apart with the blows, just thought you might be able to at least dimish this as it ruins the light saber effect for that fight.

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Originally posted by: wookielover69
Adywan,

Just been looking at your clips again for the hundreth time.

Noticed during the Obi-Wan Vader fight that there is a powder coming off the sabers on some blows. obviously this was the pratical prop at the time coming apart with the blows, just thought you might be able to at least dimish this as it ruins the light saber effect for that fight.

Thanks


That's one of the things i'm trying to eliminate

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Adywan, I don't know if you saw my post earlier in the thread, but I was wondering if you planned on releasing a standalone version that's just the 2004 DVD, but color-corrected?

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