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The Doom9 guide is good, but be aware that the newer AC3filter (with graphedit) is also capable of doing it much easier (and frankly it sounds better to my ear).

Dr. M

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Oh, links please. Sounds great. Does it actually mix the subwoofer channel properly?
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I want to say how very impressed I am with the dedication and quality of the work from the X0 team! There is no doubt that the XO project will look vastly better and more accurate to the way Star Wars actually looked in theaters than this Sept. release. I certainly hope that this thread will stay open, the superior quality of the X0 project is not even comparable to what will be coming out. And thus the XO project qualifies as something very much still *not* available to fans.

Star Wars fans everywhere are very much indebted to the fine work of this team of true Star Wars fans! The degree of improvement that you fellows have achieved with your frame-by-frame restoration effort is just amazing in the few shots we've seen. I can't wait to see the whole thing in all it's dual-layer DVD maximum quality glory. Please keep the project going and let nothing stop you, you guys are working on a very noble and worthy effort, and we are all pulling for you!

The Star Wars trilogy. There can be only one.

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Is there any chance you guys will release the complete SC?
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ADM, hmm. There wasn't a guide, it was something I worked out myself, except now I can't duplicate it. It might be something that worked with an earlier version of ac3filter and now doesn't or I'm just not remembering what I did.
I'll have to get back to you on that one.

Edit: Nope it just won't work for me now. I wish I could remember what version I was using. Anyway, Doom9's guide is still out of date since ffdshow is able to directly encode ac3 as well.

That is: Original File -> Wave Parser -> ffdshow -> wav dest -> file writer (.ac3)

All the other stuff it talks about is unimportant. You can TRY using ac3filter in place off ffdshow, which is what I was doing before. It might be a problem particular to my PC and the current version or it might not be.

Dr. M

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That is: Original File -> Wave Parser -> ffdshow -> wav dest -> file writer (.ac3)


ffdshow can now encode to AC3? My Google-bility is weak... where did you find the filter you've labelled as "ffdshow"?

Does anyone know how good ffdshow/ac3filter are at AC3 encoding compared to, say, just off the top of my head Sonic Scenarist's AC3Enc?

DE

PS From what I've read encoding requires the newer, somewhat unstable version of AC3filter.
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I've used standalone ffdshow for a long time, but the output is only 2.0 AC3. Will it do the 5.1 upmix now?
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I'm just really interested to see the DE color correction in context - how about a Wookiee Groomer style split screen of the SC & DC?
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what the fuck is SC and DE lazy cunt?
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I take it DE is Definitive Edition (ie, 1993 Laserdisc set), but I still have no idea what SC is. I was hoping for some more context.
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Originally posted by: eros
what the fuck is SC and DE lazy cunt?


How about you be polite?


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I believe this is what they're referring to as the SC
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SC is ...

DE is (not) Definitive Collection


However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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Yes, blitter and Darth Mallwalker are right about the SC. I of course meant to say SC & DC (which are the Japanese Special Collection and The Definitive Collection). Apologies to everyone except eros.
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Acronyms are a pain especially when they're wrong.
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They must only be a pain to you, since everyone else seems to be fine with them.
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Zion: there are lots of guides on Doom9, each with different methods. I am using one that uses completely free software based on VST plugins which gives amazing results. The AC3 encoder is called Aften, which is a very new codec that is very fast and seems to sound as good as SoftEncode (so, like pretty much all commercial encoders including Scenarist's and Vegas's).
I'd really like for the XØ to listen to some files encoded with thsi method, I can encode some samples for you or send you the guide and all necessary software via PM.
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Originally posted by: Byakko
Zion: there are lots of guides on Doom9, each with different methods. I am using one that uses completely free software based on VST plugins which gives amazing results. The AC3 encoder is called Aften, which is a very new codec that is very fast and seems to sound as good as SoftEncode (so, like pretty much all commercial encoders including Scenarist's and Vegas's).
I'd really like for the XØ to listen to some files encoded with thsi method, I can encode some samples for you or send you the guide and all necessary software via PM.

Hard to say no to that. PM me.

My Projects:
[Holiday Special Hybrid DVD v2]
[X0 Project]
[Backstroke of the West DVD]
[ROTS Theatrical DVD]

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ADM, yes you can use DEFNITELY use newer versions of ffdshow to generate 5.1 from a stereo source. That one does not have problem from what I've found.

Btw, in regards to some of the other discussions: sure there are many good ac3 encoder that can turn 2 channel stereo to ac3 2.0, but the point of programs like ac3filter (maybe) and ffdshow is to upmix to 5.1 at the same time. They do this by real-time encoding SPDIF output and passing it to a file (with graphedit). I DID manage in my attempts to get ac3filter to pass 5.1 PCM audio to a file, but the ac3 encoder just wouldn't work right for me. (You should be able to do the same with ffdshow). From there you could take it to whatever high quality ac3 encoder you'd like and you don't have to settle for lower quality from a faster encoding. It increases the steps but gives you the best of both worlds.

Anyway you are expanding the sound fields and providing discrete channels rather than just compressing a matrixed surround. And by using something like DPL2 to provide the upmix you are improving the quality of the surround for people with non-DPL2 surround systems. You can even tweak the matrix yourself.

Sure I sound like a convert, but the fact is still that I used 2-channel PCM on my releases. Mind you 5.1 PCM is available on HD systems.

BD & HD DVD OT in AVC with PCM 5.1! Can you feel it? (And can you understand my abbreviations?)

Dr. M

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Originally posted by: Doctor M
(And can you understand my abbreviations?)

I can, and I agree.
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"Anyway you are expanding the sound fields and providing discrete channels rather than just compressing a matrixed surround. And by using something like DPL2 to provide the upmix you are improving the quality of the surround for people with non-DPL2 surround systems. You can even tweak the matrix yourself."

That is precisely what I did, and for precisely that reason as well.

(I wonder if the 5.1 PCM channel I had created would play on one of the new HD DVD players?)

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Hi everyone,

I've been reading these forums the past few days and I just had to sign up. What you guys are doing is just fantastic.

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but have you guys heard of Red Giant's Instant HD software? It uprezzes SD footage to HD resolution with very high quality. Now even if you guys aren't interested in having HD versions yet, I think up rezzing with the software and then down sampling to SD would result in superior image quality.

http://redgiantsoftware.com/instanthd.html

Just wanted to throw in something that I thought might be of help.

Cheers,

Megacles