Scoff and bark all you want at the HD broadcast and the need or want to put it on disc media - putting it on a disc is a waste of time, the dvd's will have higher bitrate than anything you convert yourself. However, there are MANY (not a "limited audience") people out there that own HDTV's and will not only watch these, but capture or download from the hdtv binary groups, and watch them again and again - from their hard drive, like you're supposed to with HDTV .ts files. Like me