Originally posted by: greencapt
"...its *only* a model!" heh heh.
Actually as we are in confessional mode of sorts let me chime in. NONE of the Burton/Schumacher moved me in any way, shape or form. Now I know that many people have profoundly moving experiences with the first two films and define their Batman experiences by them and I can understand and appreciate that. But for my tastes... meh. Now in '89 I was in about the height of my comic collecting and had been a Batman fan for some time. I even drove a batmobile- a blue '73 Buick Elektra with huge yellow bat-symbols painted on the driver's and passenger's doors. I like many people was stoked about the first film. What I wasn't excited about was the casting. Like many people I was wary about Michael Keaton and I was underimpressed by the idea of Jack Nicholson. After seeing the film I thought that Keaton made a decent Bruce Wayne but I didn't like his Batman. And I frankly hated Nicholson as the Joker.
Yes I know... blasphemy! But there were a couple things going on in my way of thinking:
1) By this time in his career Jack was not *acting*... Jack was being Jack. Nic Cage has the same problem right now. There's no technique involved... they just do their own thing which is what everyone expects from them. I never saw 'The Joker'... I saw Jack Nicholson being himself but with a horrible prosthetic mouth extension
2) The Joker of the comics was a skinny psycho. Jack was a tubby middle actor that everyone recognized. They should have gone with an unknown.
Actually until I sat down to re-edit 'B&R' I had NEVER watched any of the four Batman films more than ONCE completely through. I saw each on opening night in the theater and that was it. Yeah I've seen bits and pieces on the TV showings, but I never had any desire to see them all the way through again. Like I said- though I was a comic geek and all they just didn't do anything for me.
I very much enjoyed 'Batman Begins' though. I won't be like many people and say it was the second coming or anything but it was the first Batman film I've had the desire to re-watch and the first I've bought on DVD.
I'll ramble on more later.
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
After all, it was just a set, not a real church anyway.
After all, it was just a set, not a real church anyway.
"...its *only* a model!" heh heh.
Actually as we are in confessional mode of sorts let me chime in. NONE of the Burton/Schumacher moved me in any way, shape or form. Now I know that many people have profoundly moving experiences with the first two films and define their Batman experiences by them and I can understand and appreciate that. But for my tastes... meh. Now in '89 I was in about the height of my comic collecting and had been a Batman fan for some time. I even drove a batmobile- a blue '73 Buick Elektra with huge yellow bat-symbols painted on the driver's and passenger's doors. I like many people was stoked about the first film. What I wasn't excited about was the casting. Like many people I was wary about Michael Keaton and I was underimpressed by the idea of Jack Nicholson. After seeing the film I thought that Keaton made a decent Bruce Wayne but I didn't like his Batman. And I frankly hated Nicholson as the Joker.
Yes I know... blasphemy! But there were a couple things going on in my way of thinking:
1) By this time in his career Jack was not *acting*... Jack was being Jack. Nic Cage has the same problem right now. There's no technique involved... they just do their own thing which is what everyone expects from them. I never saw 'The Joker'... I saw Jack Nicholson being himself but with a horrible prosthetic mouth extension
2) The Joker of the comics was a skinny psycho. Jack was a tubby middle actor that everyone recognized. They should have gone with an unknown.
Actually until I sat down to re-edit 'B&R' I had NEVER watched any of the four Batman films more than ONCE completely through. I saw each on opening night in the theater and that was it. Yeah I've seen bits and pieces on the TV showings, but I never had any desire to see them all the way through again. Like I said- though I was a comic geek and all they just didn't do anything for me.
I very much enjoyed 'Batman Begins' though. I won't be like many people and say it was the second coming or anything but it was the first Batman film I've had the desire to re-watch and the first I've bought on DVD.
I'll ramble on more later.
Impressive assessment greencapt. I had no idea you felt that way about the first round of Batman films. You should meet my friend Erin sometime.