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Uhmmmmm.........what? [in reference to: Do movies have to be enjoyable to watch? I would say no]
What, you don't understand what i'm saying or you don't agree with what i'm saying? I've seem projected material which i don't enjoy, but i appreciate why the creator made what they did. (there's a classification called "Irritainment" where the definition is something like a train wreck which you know your suppost to be repelled by, yet you watch it anyway. the OJ Bronco tv news footage is a commonly given example of this genre.) Maybe this is a problem with the definition of "movie". I have a very broad definition, others would classify movies as only Hollywood things. But i'm confused by what your getting at from your short statement.
MeBeJedi wrote:
Your exactly right, since this is a discussion forum and since the discussion had more or less stagnated. I took it upon myself to find a point in one of the many posts to move the dicussion "somewhere else". Since the poster had made the point that Scanner Darkly would have been better if they reworked the material like Blade Runner did, i was asking how they would have accomplished that. I even gave some suggestions on how a future director might do that to help along the thought process. The original poster never replied and that discussion stopped. I don't remember making any comments about that posters opinions being invalid. But i have strongly disagreed with about 95% of this thread. You still get to make the decision if i'm crazy or they are. But for the time being i'm the crazy one since i don't seem to be convincing anyone.
MedBeJedi wrote:
And I don't get where you keep calling this visual a "challenge". How the hell does it make watching the film a "challenge". Seems to me you are implying that it does make watching the film difficult, which would imply that it actually detracts from the film, rather than adding to it
What, you don't understand what i'm saying or you don't agree with what i'm saying? I've seem projected material which i don't enjoy, but i appreciate why the creator made what they did. (there's a classification called "Irritainment" where the definition is something like a train wreck which you know your suppost to be repelled by, yet you watch it anyway. the OJ Bronco tv news footage is a commonly given example of this genre.) Maybe this is a problem with the definition of "movie". I have a very broad definition, others would classify movies as only Hollywood things. But i'm confused by what your getting at from your short statement.
MeBeJedi wrote:
Sorry, but that's not a requirement for criticizing a movie. You may not like their opinion, but they are as entitled to it as you are yours. You are just trying to get them to stop saying anything negative, so your rationale is on as flimsy a basis as you perceive theirs to be.
Your exactly right, since this is a discussion forum and since the discussion had more or less stagnated. I took it upon myself to find a point in one of the many posts to move the dicussion "somewhere else". Since the poster had made the point that Scanner Darkly would have been better if they reworked the material like Blade Runner did, i was asking how they would have accomplished that. I even gave some suggestions on how a future director might do that to help along the thought process. The original poster never replied and that discussion stopped. I don't remember making any comments about that posters opinions being invalid. But i have strongly disagreed with about 95% of this thread. You still get to make the decision if i'm crazy or they are. But for the time being i'm the crazy one since i don't seem to be convincing anyone.
MedBeJedi wrote:
And I don't get where you keep calling this visual a "challenge". How the hell does it make watching the film a "challenge". Seems to me you are implying that it does make watching the film difficult, which would imply that it actually detracts from the film, rather than adding to it
I called it a "challenge" because so many people say they cannot/will not watch the film because of the style in which it is presented. I watched the film and do not consider it a challenge, but others do. The fact that even with the ability to watch 20+ minutes of the film for free, and they choose not to, shows that some aspect challenges their notion of what a film or movie should be.
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