by Shimraa:
wow boon the more i read the morei am leaning on jays side of this whole debackle. seriously your logic of we did it first, man what you guys did is just about as moral as me telling my buddy an idea for an invention, and then my friend going and making that invention, and patening is before i have a chance. and doing it behind my back. the bottem line is that with the similar name you guys are going to seriously hurt the success of jays site. how fair is that, how can your morally jsut go and blow off jay when he has spent a year and a half developing his site. your use of torrents and open talk of pirating is going to be the site of choice when the two sites are up. you pretty much spat in jays face with this. the least you can do is change the sites name. jay had the rights to fanedit.com a lot longer then you had the rights for *****. is that not the case. well i think that would be fair game as to say that jay was first.
wow boon the more i read the morei am leaning on jays side of this whole debackle. seriously your logic of we did it first, man what you guys did is just about as moral as me telling my buddy an idea for an invention, and then my friend going and making that invention, and patening is before i have a chance. and doing it behind my back. the bottem line is that with the similar name you guys are going to seriously hurt the success of jays site. how fair is that, how can your morally jsut go and blow off jay when he has spent a year and a half developing his site. your use of torrents and open talk of pirating is going to be the site of choice when the two sites are up. you pretty much spat in jays face with this. the least you can do is change the sites name. jay had the rights to fanedit.com a lot longer then you had the rights for *****. is that not the case. well i think that would be fair game as to say that jay was first.
Shimraa, thanks for posting this and for the time you take to learn about his thing. i have no idea what it is you are reading, but if you want to I can send you the entire messages I had with jay from the beginning.
But back to your post:
Jay is neither my buddy nor my friend, I actually don't know him a bit (well I get to know him now). Believe it or not, I had no idea what Jay was planning until ** was already up. The banner "****" referring to our website is 1 year old (I just looked it up, because I thought it was about 6 months) and was created by our webmaster Neo_the_one. Proof? ****1.0 user: ****pw: films . If you need more evidence, I can forward you the email, where he showed it to me. Now you may say I present false evidence, I about expect that, but true is, i don't have to present anything at all. I do it, just so you might see, what really happened, because I don't have a bad conscience. We could have made ** already then, but at that time I was to busy with other ongoing projects and he did not want to do it alone. About 1 year later I got about the same offer again and this time I was ready for action and showed Pauley79 the "****" banner that Neo created. The domain for it was registered months before. Why do I tell this? Because I think it makes one thing clear: I didn't do anything behind anyone's back. "Jay is not the godfather of fanedits" was one of my posts in the ** forum as an answer to why I did not think about contacting him. Why should I? Because he runs this place here? I still don't understand, what makes jay such an important person when it comes to fanedits, just because he owns OT. The fanedit thing is a total side product of OT, always was. My projects were and are in the NON STAR WARS section, which I always found... unfitting. Matrix is surely a non star wars film, it is also a non battle star galactica film. Somehow this explains how I and some other fellow faneditors who did not just edit Star Wars movies felt about this place. We were a side product.
And again back to your post:
I disagree that our name hurts in any way the success of Jay's site, if it is quality, it will survive and if not, then it will die. The users will make it important or less important. How fair is what, if I do not know and do not care about Jay? Does Jay care about me? Once again I am asking: why is this guy so important? Why should I have to respect him, when he does obviously not respect me a bit? I really don't understand what you are saying there, but I remember Jay saying : respect is earned by doing respectful deeds. Well... he never did anything much respectful to me, if you ask me. But I like OT and personally I think it is the users that made it to what it was, not Jay. So, I am not spitting anything in his face by saying that it is absolutely ok to create a fanedits showcase and name it the way we want, because I do not talk to Jay, he is neither a faneditor (as far as I know) nor does he watch fanedits (as far as I know). He is just the webmaster of this great community, not their boss, not their creator, not the man with the answers.
Do you know SISTERHOOD, it is a band of the 80s, actually it is just one guy... when the Sisters of Mercy split in 1985 the rest of the members wanted to continue using the fans of the sisters, so they chose the name Sisterhood to get realized. They did not produce an albun title but went on tour for several months. Now the reamining mastermind of Sisters of Mercy, who also had the rights for the name, ws shocked by the name SISTERHOOD, but he knew about legal rights, so he produced and album with a song he wrote in 10 minutes under the band name SISTERHOOD and thereby he git the rights for the band name. Agrred, it was not nice, what he did, but he would have called it self-defence I guess. Still, he was the first to come up with something, so he could keep the name.
We were the first to come up with our name, the website exists right now for everyone to see. This and the behaviour of Jay are all I need to explain, why there is no reason for us to NOT use our name. You tell me ONE REASON why I should be nice after all that has been said.
Jay made this a battle that I am still not willing to fight, but I will defend myself. If you want peace, Jay, be welcome, you don't even have to apologize for all the bad things you said about and to me, let's just share banners. Maybe you are a nice guy after all - with a superiority complex (I will edit this if I have to).
And Shimraa, it is just not fair from some people here always saying that I knew or must have known about things I didn't. It is actually impossible for me to defend myself against prejudices.