It also takes a lot of conditioning. I suppose these people really believe that the western world is the ultimate evil. As for the freedom born types? I suppose they must have some problems of their own. All of us have moral values built into us. Even a hardend atheist believes it is wrong to kill, even though he would say we are all merely highly evolved animals. Even if he were to say killing a person isn't much different than killing an animal, you can bet he would feel great remorse if he were to kill someone himself. We are born with it. I was talking to a U.S. Army chaplin (a priest that is deployed with the soilders to be there to pray with them and take confessions or whatever else) some months ago, he had just come back from Iraq. He talked about how the soilders would feel after having killed in battle, and would go to him for help, and how a few of the soilders would get past the point of feeling remorse and that killing would become second nature to them. He said it is very dangerous when they get to this point and that one of the main reasons the U.S. Army employs chaplins is to help keep the soilders from getting to that point. There are other ways people can lose this remorse, there are cases where somebody is born without it, or sometimes they snap under the pressure of tramatic experience, or perhaps from a very tramatic childhood. I agree, in the case of these western born terrorist, there must be more to it than just religious beliefs. Maybe over a long period of time of being taught these things. It is scary to think that somebody born and raised in America or Great Britian, and taught in those school systems, can be brought to the point of not only attempting to killing men, women, and children but attempting to kill hundreds of them at a time.