Originally posted by:Anchorhead
Gaffer speaks the truth.
I’m not a fan of Empire. Too contrived, too slick. Star Wars was a complete story. A reluctant bystander gets drawn into a battle against an evil lord and with the help of a mentor and an unwilling pair of shady characters, he rescues the princess and defeats the bad guys. It’s an outer space fairy tale, and it worked very well.
No more of the story needed to be told. Doing so started the process of shrinking the universe and weakening the story. The characters in Star Wars aren’t related to each other and it’s just by chance that their paths cross. The adventure they all go on because of the chain of events that brought them all together is what makes the movie so big and magical. Empire is none of those things.
In fact, I haven’t seen Empire in about 7 or 8 years and I can’t imagine I’ll bother with it again.
Star Wars is the movie that awed me as a boy. It’s the only one I’m interested in.
Gaffer speaks the truth.
I’m not a fan of Empire. Too contrived, too slick. Star Wars was a complete story. A reluctant bystander gets drawn into a battle against an evil lord and with the help of a mentor and an unwilling pair of shady characters, he rescues the princess and defeats the bad guys. It’s an outer space fairy tale, and it worked very well.
No more of the story needed to be told. Doing so started the process of shrinking the universe and weakening the story. The characters in Star Wars aren’t related to each other and it’s just by chance that their paths cross. The adventure they all go on because of the chain of events that brought them all together is what makes the movie so big and magical. Empire is none of those things.
In fact, I haven’t seen Empire in about 7 or 8 years and I can’t imagine I’ll bother with it again.
Star Wars is the movie that awed me as a boy. It’s the only one I’m interested in.
I totally agree with you about the Original SW, there is nothing that matches it. I can always watch that movie in reference to how it was presented in 1977, and don't think about the stuff after it, and the stuff before it. I can say because I saw it in 1977, I am not tainted by the constant story changes by Lucas which has really denegrated it to the younger generation fans who really miss the point of the whole story. This movie has been my favorite movie of ALL TIME since 1977, so it resonates with me the same way.
But I still enjoy the other SW movies, I just look at them a different way. I watch SW '77 as that standalone movie about good vs evil and I still love the ending when they get their medals, it is the ultimate goosebump moment. I then watch ESB & ROTJ as the story of Luke vs Vader to the backdrop of the Rebels vs Empire conflict. They are not sequels to SW '77, just another story that has to be watched in the context that the relationship of Vader/Luke was changed in 1980.
I then watch the PT as just a backstory of ObiWan/Anakin to the backdrop to how the Empire came to power, but in no means does this lead well into Episode IV, cause it is too jarring. I can enjoy all 6 SW movies, of course I enjoy SW '77 more than anything, and of course I enjoy the OT more than the PT. But for anyone who was there in 1977, nothing beats The Original Star Wars, and it aint cause of nostalgia. I probably watch The Original SW about 10-15 times a year and never get sick of it.
Good talk here guys, this is why I will always love this site, you can talk old SW talk without someone bringing up some quote from Lucas during the PT that totally contradicts the OT movies.