Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen

It also helps, as I now confess and then run for cover .... that I am the world's only megastarwars fan who ... wait for it .....

.... doesn't like The Empire Strikes Back.

And, yes, I realize what a pariah that makes me.

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Dont run for cover, cause there are millions of fans like you, and that is why no SW movie ever grossed what the original SW did in 1977, adjusted or unadjusted for inflation. I for one don't love Vader being Lukes father one bit, and I think that is when Lucas went Vader crazy and ruined the whole saga.

Whenever I watch SW '77, I watch it as that standalone film, and don't think about any of the other 5 movies. If you just watch the original SW in the context it was written, there are no plot holes, and Lucas started changing things in 1980, but the difference back then is he didn't go back and changed the previous films like he did with the OT movies after the PT, that is what makes so many OT fans mad now.

I just think ESB is a great movie, plain & simple, cause Kershner brought the saga to another level on the dramatic end with Yoda and the Leia & Han relationship. But once Vader uttered those words, "I am your father," SW the saga jumped the shark for me, cause it went from this macro story of good vs evil to this micro story of this anti-hero grey character called Anakin Skywalker. And for me, that type of story does not mix with the type of movie Lucas does when it comes to SW.

Obi Jeewhyen, you are not alone in feeling that SW '77 is the end, but about 99% of that fanbase doesn't post on an internet board at this point in their life, so you don't get that representation of your views on any of the SW message boards. I tried getting a whole forum board on TFn about talk of just The Original SW without the context of sequels and prequels, just to talk to anyone like me who saw it in 1977, and how everything was perceived before 1980. The mods didn't even understand what I meant, as they couldn't even relate to anyone who would just look at the original as a standalone movie? I made this one statement to them in a PM, "Do you even realize The Original SW isn't even about Darth Vader, other than just being a really cool bad guy?" I am still waiting for a response.

By the way, thanks for the compliment Zombie 84.