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Trooperman,

Very nice trailer! Mace's saber looks great, and I think the Dune footage may work out if used sparingly. As others have said, during the dream sequence the punch sound and Shmi's scream don't sound quite right.

About Anakin's new voice. I like it a lot more than I thought I would. I was skeptical about how it might turn out, but I think it works well. I know a lot of others here have said it's too deep, but I disagree. I think it will do a lot to make the character seem more mature, less annoying and whiny. I don't think the voice sounds "too old" for him. Even though he's in his late teens, he's well beyond puberty and his voice won't do much more changing as he ages. So he's got his adult voice by now. I will agree that the dialog during the balcony scene about his training is a little difficult to understand; maybe it can be articulated a little more.

And of course, it was great to see my Starkiller Ranch logo in there BTW, I have a super hi-res version if you need one.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Looks really promising I must say.

But still, there are some things that are bothering me:

- First of all, the voice work is great, but I as well would vote for a little higher pitch

- The main problem is the SOUND of the newly dubbed lines... especially in the first Anakin/Amidala scene your new line doesn't sound like it's in the same space as Amidala's... it sounds more like a voice-over than an actual ADR. I'm not sure since the music is rather loud in that part of the trailer, but I guess it has to do with too much reverb being added and the lack of ambient sound and foley. Trying to filter the sounds differently and adding some minimal ambient "hum" or "noise" would be enough, plus some foley sound of rustling clothes and slight footsteps on carpet to sell the illusion even better. Foley sounds can be found in the sound files of a lot of games... if you want I could look for some. (the C-3P0 shot shows how defining ambient sound can be, since it suddenly stops when a new "source" is used)

- There are a few contrast problems... the moonlight scene's contrast is way too high, making it too dark. If you look at movies using day-for-night shots, you do see some details in the mid-range. The droid factory-scene (though color wise just perfect) is a little too dark as well... you might want to raise the level of the mid range, keeping the blacks where they are, but giving a little more detail in the darker areas. Generally your contrast levels are a bit inconsisent, especially comparing some of the original EPII-shots, and your color corrected ones... your's are generally too dark.

So, I hope you don't mind this nitpicking, after all you wanted criticism
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Audio mixing/ambience problems? Missing sound effects? What on earth are you talking about?

That was a deliberate creative decision!



Hi! I don't have much time, but I wanted to check in. Thank you so much for giving me all of those comments and technical observations. Just wanted to clarify a couple things:

1. At no point in the process did I artificially lower my voice. The pitch of the original is the pitch you hear.
2. I don't really want to raise Anakin’s voice artificially. What I CAN do is do some pickup recordings for lines lower than the others, to make it a little more light and more fitting to his age.
3. Video- Yes, the blacks are sometimes crunched and the sunset is a bit too saturated. All of this is comparatively very easy to fix, on a shot by shot basis.

4. Regarding the technical deficiencies of the audio throughout the trailer- you’re absolutely right. There are a couple lines that sound like I’m talking through a tin can, and there’s the one in particular where I’m mumbling and the line is hard to understand. Obviously this will not exist for the final film. Much of the excessive reverb you hear was actually hastily added for the trailer and has not even been tackled for the film yet. I also had to raise the volume of some lines so they'd be audible over the music. And in some shots, the effects weren't even put in yet. I'm not very good at trailer creation.

The actual mixing of the audio and so forth has also not been done yet for the most part. Right now, I’ve almost completed the framework, then I’ll finalize the video, and only then will I start tackling mixing, making everyone’s voices seem like they’re in the same space, and doing ambience and foaley effects. This is very difficult for someone that’s never done it before, and my thinking was that rather than waste all kinds of time at first mixing all of the audio, I’d just get the film done first, and then tackle all of these issues. Mixing should be up to professional quality by the time the movie is out.

In the mean time, it would be wonderful, Laserschwert, if you could search for ambience and foaley effects. I am really lacking in that department; I would probably have put out a request for that type of thing in the near future. I made so many alterations that in most cases, I can’t use the original effects due to interference with music/dialogue (even in the rear and center surround channels). I have to start from scratch. I’ve had particular difficulty with missing footsteps, the rustling of the clothes, and so on.

The trailer is very sloppily and hastily done, and should not be taken as an example of how the final mix will sound. This is an extremely complex and unparalleled process, and I haven’t gotten to most of it yet. I sometimes wish I was in a whole networked lab or studio, where I could cut each scene myself and then send it to the color timing guy, who would do his work based on my notes, who would then send it to the audio mixer, who would analyze all of the source material (from the original surround mix and his library of foaley effects) and them, using my temp mix as a base, creates a professional audio mix with all the bells and whistles. All while I’m busy on the next scene.

Of course, if I had that situation, then I might as well buy a camera and reshoot the movie. One can dream…

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Thanks to everyone that contributed and gave me all of this feedback! Don’t think for a moment that somehow my feelings are hurt; I’m glad that you brought these things up (many of which I was already aware), because it shows you’re as concerned about the outcome of this as I am. Thanks so much! Lama-Su seems to be very well received, which is also good. I think the more you hear of him in the future, the more you’ll like the voice.

BTW, I have a super hi-res version if you need one.

That'd be great!

I just wanted you all to know I won't be glossing over anything. The audio flaws you mentioned are doubly apparent to me (except the actual pitch of the voice). This wasn't a representation of the final quality of the product, as much as a sample of two of the four primary voices in this edit. Uncle Owen, Nute Gunray, and Jar-Jar are in progress at this time. I will answer specific comments later. Thanks so much!

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Any way I can get the hi-res and possible in a diffrent format please.
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Originally posted by: BSherrod
Any way I can get the hi-res and possible in a diffrent format please.


Are you referring to the Starkiller Ranch logo?

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Oops, I misread the post. I thought he was refering to a super hi-res version of the trailer, but I am a big fan of the whole Starkiller project too.
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Erik I would love it if you could send me the super Hi-Res version. You can PM me and I'll send you my email or something like that.
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Trooperman!

Overall excellent job; I understand this is just a rough assembly of various things put together in the interest of showcasing some of what you've done so far. And in that respect you've done your job.

My comments are pretty much the same as everyone elses: Anakin's deep voice, blue Naboo, and red Tatooine could all use some work.

It's great to finally see the stuff we've been talking about for over a year finally coming together. Keep it up!
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WOW! This trailer has got me very excited, Trooperman!

The overall look is very cool. I'll need to see more, but the picture doesn't seem as overly sharp as it was in the original. The extra battle footage (from Dune, I assume) mixed nicely with everything else and has me really psyched up for the Battle of Geonosis. Lama Su sounds perfect! I'm intrigued by the look of the conveyor belt sequence--it reminds me of ESB sort of.

Now, I'm having to get used to Anakin's voice, but it really does work pretty well as his voice. As others have said, it could be just a slight bit higher--but not too much! I think the biggest thing about it is that, as you mentioned, the mixing isn't finished so he sounds very prominent and not a natural part of the soundscape. But the acting is sounding pretty nice, and I think it will help tremendously once you have finished the sound editing. Nice work!

I'll need to see more of it to judge, but Mace's saber looked good. I'm not entirely sure about the heavy color changes, like the moonlit Naboo, but there's definitely supreme potential in this.

I look forward to seeing more, Trooperman. Great job!
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I'm back! (and working on the film, of course) Again, thank you so much to everyone for your thoughts and comments on the content of the trailer. Also, sorry about all those who've PM'd me- it'll take awhile due to the irritating 25 PM limit.

I've gone back through my recordings and looked at some of the scenes I've dubbed, and the voice really isn't that low in general. Another factor is this- I thought everyone would like the low voice for Anakin, and I selected lines that emphasized that for the trailer. I can post a couple of clips from scenes that have already been dubbed to show you what I mean (you'll get a whole different impression- I did purposely select low lines and low takes of the lines you hear in the trailer. And again, as you know, I have not done the final mix yet, with blending and ambience and so forth. It will be a waste of time until the video is completely locked down, because I alter things frequently.

With that having been said...

Originally posted by: musicman
WOW! This trailer has got me very excited, Trooperman!

The overall look is very cool. I'll need to see more, but the picture doesn't seem as overly sharp as it was in the original. The extra battle footage (from Dune, I assume) mixed nicely with everything else and has me really psyched up for the Battle of Geonosis.

Thanks- one of the shots from the trailer is actually from Lawrence of Arabia rather than Dune. I guess the fact that nobody mentioned it indicates that it blended well.

I'm intrigued by the look of the conveyor belt sequence--it reminds me of ESB sort of.

This is good! Wait until you hear the music for that scene...

I think the biggest thing about it is that, as you mentioned, the mixing isn't finished so he sounds very prominent and not a natural part of the soundscape. But the acting is sounding pretty nice, and I think it will help tremendously once you have finished the sound editing. Nice work!

This is very true- the volume of the voice is high, partly because I'm not finished and partly because I wanted people to be able to hear it adequately.

Originally posted by: Laserschwert
Looks really promising I must say.

- There are a few contrast problems... the moonlight scene's contrast is way too high, making it too dark. If you look at movies using day-for-night shots, you do see some details in the mid-range. The droid factory-scene (though color wise just perfect) is a little too dark as well... you might want to raise the level of the mid range, keeping the blacks where they are, but giving a little more detail in the darker areas. Generally your contrast levels are a bit inconsisent, especially comparing some of the original EPII-shots, and your color corrected ones... your's are generally too dark.

So, I hope you don't mind this nitpicking, after all you wanted criticism

This is very good criticism. I was worried about the contrast, too; I certainly don't want to flatten all of the blacks and lose the details. I've viewed my trailer on other monitors, and it looks a lot darker. Maybe my monitor is set lighter? I will be raising the master brightness at the end, to be safe, but for now I'm doing it based on what looks correct on my monitor (a fairly large one).


Thanks for the hi-res logo, Erik!

I will agree that the dialog during the balcony scene about his training is a little difficult to understand; maybe it can be articulated a little more.


I have different, more articulate takes of this line. That take is gone; it kind of trails off at the end.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Wow, fantastic trailer! Mace's blue saber, new colors, Dune footage.....whoa!

And as for Anakin's voice...well, wouldn't you be striving to sound more like Sebastian Shaw that JEJ? Just a thought.


Well, I always figured that Sebastian Shaw sounded the way he did because he was old and he was dying. I didn't want to base Anakin as a young man on Shaw (and frankly it never occurred to me!)

Originally posted by: C3PX
Very impressive! I really like the new colors, takes away that fake entirely-filmed-in-front-of-a-green-screen look.


Thank you! This was a major goal of mine.

in ROTS he went from his whiney Hayden voice straight to JEJ once he was in the suit.


Which I hated.

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I'm sorry- I don't have time to respond to everyone, but I'll pick up where I left off a bit later.

Thanks so much for your support! May the force be with you,

-TM

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Trooperman it was funny this weekend I told a Star Wars fan that I met on a youth group trip about this edit and then the following Starkiller edits. And guess what he said "Why is Maces saber blue now ". I was thought prequel gusher.
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-Yeah, I’m not sure about some of the color correction. The moonlight scene is a little…eh. But there’s probably no way around it, so I’ll deal with it.

No, there probably is a way around it. The general consensus seems to be that it has too much of a blue tint to it. Also wanted to point out that the shot in the trailer is a bit different color-wise than what's actually in the movie. I used a different color blend that subtly changes during the panning shot for the movie, which I did differently (and more quickly) for the trailer.

-Shmi’s dialogue and scream *does* sound canned. You could add some reverb to her voice and make it sound more dream-like.

I noticed this as well. I think I need more source material; the quality of those recordings originally is actually pretty awful.

-The ANH and TPM clip will work, I guess. I know you tried to disguise the clips and make it more like a dream, but us fans will know. And maybe that’s not really a problem!

I used some footage from Star Wars, but none from TPM. Maybe you're mistaking a shot from the "The Making of Star Wars" documentary from 1977.

While I'm on the topic, I was wondering if anyone happened to have a better cap of that shot from the documentary? I have the shot from the RowMan edition, which is overly compressed and not acceptable quality. I also need track 10 from the Ep. II soundtrack, if anyone could help out with that...

Lama Su’s voice: Amazing! Great new dialogue!

I knew you all would like Lama-Su, and you've just gotten a peek at the new script for those scenes that have been recorded. Now all I need are the 2 missing lines from scene 1...

I know this is really too early to ask, but: Are you planning on playing around with ROTS?

Gee, I hope so. Although working on SOTDS has been fun, it has been murder to fit it into the schedule. However, I will do ADR for ROTS at the very, very least- otherwise the series would be incomplete. I'm thinking about maybe asking someone else to tackle all of the Upatu/Kashyyk stuff in the style of SOTDS, and then I'll complete the Anakin/Palpatine scenes and the saber duels personally.



And Episode I will be in good hands, I believe. I may be able to help out with that as well, although the nature of the film, with the ridiculous costumes and cartoonish Gungans, will probably make it impossible to achieve the level of Ep. II. This is stuff that you can't take out. Portman's awful accent, Jake Lloyd, the whole boring plot... the list goes on and on. The visual design in Ep. II was such that what was already there could be altered so much that it seems to fit in the OT style, with the exception of Anakin's stupid ponytail. How I wish I could digitally erase that!

What Ep. I will have going for it, though, is an intriguing storyline set up through subtitles (kind of like MagnoliaFan's), great music, and a good, quick pace. I really enjoyed the Ep. I opening that PaulisDead posted in his thread; it would start the saga on an exciting note.

Side note: I think it would be alot of fun to have Anakin say: “I have you now!” just like in ANH. Not sure what scene though...

Good idea for ROTS.

I like the voice, but my problem with it is that it sounds too voiceoverish, like the quality was great, but it sounded like it was recorded in a booth too much.

Again, I think (correct me if I'm wrong) what everyone's saying is that the quality of voice and acting was good, but the way it was mixed is jarring. And that there are a few lines that are too low.

By the way, "He held me back" and "I will be the most powerful Jedi ever" are both from the garage scene, which I recorded when I was sick and in a bad mood. This was very appropriate for that scene (as if Anakin had been crying beforehand and his voice was hoarse), but the other scenes are not like this. The other low line, "When I first started my training.. etc." is actually from the Arrival on Naboo scene, and the reading will be redone for the final film.


There's still a bit of purple glow around mace's hand. Not that big a deal but it's there. *shrugs* overall a fine looking saber.

Yes, yes... the purple glow is still there. If I have time, I'll try to remove it, but when inserted into the movie, I don't think it will be noticed, particularly by someone without prior knowledge.

And thanks so much for uploading it to Youtube, Weyseed! And I'm glad you liked the voice. I do think that once it's properly mixed and people see it in context, they'll get used to it. I know I have (but it's my voice, of course)


I'm not sure if you've already mentioned it but quickly i'll ask, was the "don't you touch me, AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH" a temp place-holder for something else? It's uh, it's a little cheesy. heh.

Ha ha!- The "aaaaaaahhhh" sound effect is a very cheesy stock sound effect and will probably be removed. "Don't you touch me" was an actual line, however.


Congratulations! This one seems like a winner so far. Maybe we'll finally have the sequel to Balance Of The Force.


I'd rather it not be thought of that way, because that wasn't really the goal. MagnoliaFan did give me a couple great bits of advice on this, but this isn't meant to supplant "The Clone War". Rather, this is a completely new deal.


Of course, the best recording would always be to actually use a voice-actor that has a deep voice. Short of that, just trying your darndest to make your own voice deep is most times preferrable to using a filter to make it sound that way.

I did use a couple filters to reduce hiss, but at no point did I alter the pitch of my voice. It is what it is

It sounds like the voice is echoing or something

Again, this is a trailer defect and not a movie defect.


And the voice is a little low. But it definitaly a step in the right direction.

At least does everyone agree that from what you've heard, the acting will be an improvement over Hayden? I know you haven't heard much, so I'll be posting a couple more clips in days to come.


Great work. Have a good break, then GET BACK TO WORK!

Ha ha! I'm back to work, Mark. I want this to be done more than you all do.

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I have a question to pose to all of you. Opinion question: Do you want Jar-Jar's speech to the Senate in the film or out of it? (subtitled, of course). In Nichol's version, the scene begins with Palpatine standing up.

Also, I've just realized that I hate the voice of the blue guy that stands next to Palpatine (don't know his name). He has only three or four lines. Only one of them requires lip synch.

Is anyone up for this? If not, I'll ask in the General SW discussion forum.

Thanks!

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I have always hated the idea of Jar Jar handing the emergency powers and the republic to Darth Sidious. Plus if you remove the entire scene, then the suspense in the arena would be higher because you don't know that the jedi and the clones are coming. I do hope you remove it.


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Originally posted by: Trooperman

"And Episode I will be in good hands, I believe. I may be able to help out with that as well, although the nature of the film, with the ridiculous costumes and cartoonish Gungans, will probably make it impossible to achieve the level of Ep. II. This is stuff that you can't take out. Portman's awful accent, Jake Lloyd, the whole boring plot... the list goes on and on. The visual design in Ep. II was such that what was already there could be altered so much that it seems to fit in the OT style, with the exception of Anakin's stupid ponytail. How I wish I could digitally erase that! What Ep. I will have going for it, though, is an intriguing storyline set up through subtitles (kind of like MagnoliaFan's), great music, and a good, quick pace. I really enjoyed the Ep. I opening that PaulisDead posted in his thread; it would start the saga on an exciting note. "

Who is working on Episode I right now? Just curious.

"I'd rather it not be thought of that way, because that wasn't really the goal. MagnoliaFan did give me a couple great bits of advice on this, but this isn't meant to supplant "The Clone War". Rather, this is a completely new deal."

Point taken - sorry about that.
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
I have always hated the idea of Jar Jar handing the emergency powers and the republic to Darth Sidious. Plus if you remove the entire scene, then the suspense in the arena would be higher because you don't know that the jedi and the clones are coming. I do hope you remove it.



I agree I would also propose to remove the "if only senator amidala were here" nonsense...earlier in the movie she is the leader of the opposition with regard to the military creation act, lets not pretend that just because the droid army was amassing that she would not only change her opinion but be the poster-senator to propose this 'radical amendment'. Then in Sith she still wants the fighting to stop....

I know it was a way to trick Jar Jar but it still feels quite hollow, Jar Jar should know her well enough to know that she wouldnt go along with it.



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Hey, I just wanted to give some feedback on the voice over acting. Great work! I liked how you tried to match your diction to the same deliberate and refined tone that JEJ give to Vader in the OT. Excellent work, and I can't wait to hear what it sounds like properly mixed!
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Originally posted by: stossmoI agree I would also propose to remove the "if only senator amidala were here" nonsense...earlier in the movie she is the leader of the opposition with regard to the military creation act, lets not pretend that just because the droid army was amassing that she would not only change her opinion but be the poster-senator to propose this 'radical amendment'. Then in Sith she still wants the fighting to stop....


OMG I never realized that--I mean of course it's a cheesy line that should be cut out anyway, but that's true it doesn't even make sense for her character. Jesus, sometimes it's hard to catch this crap.

Although I do like the thought of the blood of millions being on Jar Jar's hands because I don't think for myself and have read "Reasons to Hate Attack of the Clones" like a million times--it sort of redeems his character for me. I'd say toss it in. I don't think it ruins the suspense at the arena. Sidious says "I'll be making a clone army" not "I'm sending out a clone army to save some jedi and senator Amidala."

I wonder how he later explained to the senate how he got a clone army so fast...I wonder why nobody asked.

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Originally posted by: Trooperman
I also need track 10 from the Ep. II soundtrack, if anyone could help out with that...

Check your PMs.

Originally posted by: Trooperman
Also, I've just realized that I hate the voice of the blue guy that stands next to Palpatine (don't know his name). He has only three or four lines.


"Oh-dah! Oh-dah!"

That's the guy, right?

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Originally posted by: stossmo
I agree I would also propose to remove the "if only senator amidala were here" nonsense
I know it was a way to trick Jar Jar but it still feels quite hollow, Jar Jar should know her well enough to know that she wouldnt go along with it.


Thats the way I've always read it too, Palpy only says that to manipulate Jar Jar into believing he's stepping up to the task at hand

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Originally posted by: Trooperman

I have a question to pose to all of you. Opinion question: Do you want Jar-Jar's speech to the Senate in the film or out of it? (subtitled, of course). In Nichol's version, the scene begins with Palpatine standing up.


I say work with the scene and see what you can do with it as far as subtitles - if it works, keep it - if it doesn't pitch it. As long as you're revamping everything, why not see if you can salvage this too through the magic of editing.

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Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
I don't think it ruins the suspense at the arena. Sidious says "I'll be making a clone army" not "I'm sending out a clone army to save some jedi and senator Amidala."


The scene does ruin the suspense because Mace Windu says he will take what jedi he has to Geonosis, and Yoda says he will go to Kamino to check on the clone army.


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Keep in mind that we can have this both ways. Here's what I had in mind:

Palpatine: But what senator would have the courage to propose such a radical amendment?
Close-up of Jar. Wipe to next scene.

What I meant was... do we want to actually see Jar-Jar's speech or do we want it to be implied?

Originally posted by: musicman


Originally posted by: Trooperman
Also, I've just realized that I hate the voice of the blue guy that stands next to Palpatine (don't know his name). He has only three or four lines.

"Oh-dah! Oh-dah!"

That's the guy, right?

That's the guy! What a dumb accent. "Emergency pow-ahs." It's even more irritating when you realize that that character should be Tarkin.

Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
Originally posted by: stossmoI agree I would also propose to remove the "if only senator amidala were here" nonsense...earlier in the movie she is the leader of the opposition with regard to the military creation act, lets not pretend that just because the droid army was amassing that she would not only change her opinion but be the poster-senator to propose this 'radical amendment'. Then in Sith she still wants the fighting to stop....



I wonder how he later explained to the senate how he got a clone army so fast...I wonder why nobody asked.


Another thing I wish I could change but can't. I can't rewrite the story; I can only take what we have and put new things into it.

Originally posted by: Marvolo
I have always hated the idea of Jar Jar handing the emergency powers and the republic to Darth Sidious. Plus if you remove the entire scene, then the suspense in the arena would be higher because you don't know that the jedi and the clones are coming. I do hope you remove it.


But it doesn't have to be that way. I have cut that conversation with Yoda and Windu. Mace says, "It is done, then," and the scene ends.

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Originally posted by: Trooperman
I have cut that conversation with Yoda and Windu. Mace says, "It is done, then," and the scene ends.


I still hate Jar Jar's speech at the beginning of the scene, but if you start the scene with palpatine standing up it will be fine.


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Originally posted by: Trooperman
Keep in mind that we can have this both ways. Here's what I had in mind:

Palpatine: But what senator would have the courage to propose such a radical amendment?
Close-up of Jar. Wipe to next scene.

What I meant was... do we want to actually see Jar-Jar's speech or do we want it to be implied?

Here's what I recommend:

Wipe to Yoda and Mace looking over the senate (wait until Mace has stopped walking in to start the wipe). Jar Jar is talking in the backround. Subtitles state that he proposes giving emergency powers to the Chancellor. We hear some cheering.

(Cut closeups of Jar Jar, all the senators gesturing, and the "or-duh" guy.)

Cut to Palpatine standing up and saying: "It is with great reluctance ..." etc., giving his whole speech.

Pan back to Yoda and Mace. Mace says "It is done, then." Yoda reacts. Wipe to next scene.

Originally posted by: Trooperman

That's the guy! What a dumb accent. "Emergency pow-ahs." It's even more irritating when you realize that that character should be Tarkin.


Actually, I'm not so sure. Tarkin was a Governor. It would have been unusual to have a Governor as the Chancellor's aide.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?