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***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress — Page 4
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Originally posted by: Ripplin
The only thing that ever truly bugged me about ESB through the years were some of the matte lines, especially in space scenes. Some of them were absolutely awful, like ghostly boxes around the ships.
The only thing that ever truly bugged me about ESB through the years were some of the matte lines, especially in space scenes. Some of them were absolutely awful, like ghostly boxes around the ships.
I can agree to that, and that's throughout the trilogy - I mean, it's not a big deal, since it still looks real, but it was something I noticed even as a kid.
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Shouldn't Clive Revill be left in the credits somehow?
He's not in the movie any more... besides, I pasted Ian McDiarmid's name over his. I'd have to jiggle the whole credits around to add another name.
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So I take it your leaving in that horrid addition inculding the awful lines read by McDiarmid?
You do great work and the screen caps look fantastic but sorry that new scene ruins a nearly perfect film for me, that Fett's new lines and pink lightsabers
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So I take it your leaving in that horrid addition inculding the awful lines read by McDiarmid?
McDiarmid will appear on screen and say the lines, but what those lines might be...
Boba Fett's lines will be restored.
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I think the compositing has something of a 1980s charm about it
Right, I think so too. I guess, then, I'm wondering where you draw the line as far as changes go?
The ones I pointed out are not horrible, but I thought part of the idea with this project was fixing the little things?
By the way, I'm not attacking your position, I am simply wondering.
You might at least look at that first snow speeder explosion...it looks a little pink.
Cool. Yeah, I think that'll help.
McDiarmid will appear on screen and say the lines, but what those lines might be...
Right, I think so too. I guess, then, I'm wondering where you draw the line as far as changes go?
The ones I pointed out are not horrible, but I thought part of the idea with this project was fixing the little things?
By the way, I'm not attacking your position, I am simply wondering.
You might at least look at that first snow speeder explosion...it looks a little pink.
Disagree. Maybe I just have never looked that hard, but I've always thought that the effects in ESB were the most realistic overall.
I would agree with you on that. And I am by no means bashing the hard work that ILM did at the time. Just my own opinion on a few changes...
I guess, more than anything, I just like the idea or experimenting with a 20+ year old movie.
Oh, I do plan on blurring the Falcon's shadow, forgot to mention that.
I would agree with you on that. And I am by no means bashing the hard work that ILM did at the time. Just my own opinion on a few changes...
I guess, more than anything, I just like the idea or experimenting with a 20+ year old movie.
Oh, I do plan on blurring the Falcon's shadow, forgot to mention that.
Cool. Yeah, I think that'll help.
McDiarmid will appear on screen and say the lines, but what those lines might be...
Hmmm...curious!
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The only stumbling block left is getting a decent impersonation of McDiarmid saying "Luke"
Maybe he says it in one of the DVD Special Features (either from the prequels or the 2004 DVDs), or his narration from the Musical Journey DVD. You'd might have to "rough up" McDiarmid's voice to sound like Palpatine's if you can find it. - Time
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Originally posted by: Darth EditousOkay, I might as well tell you in case I never get it finished
Thats kind of disheartening, why would you not be able to finish the project?
Originally posted by: Darth Editous
my version of the Emperor scene will be a shot-for-shot replica of the original (the SE DVD changes a lot of the shots around), and will include a side view of Ian McDiarmid saying "He could destroy us" which is not present in the 2006 DVD (how I do that I'll leave you to guess).
Thats kind of disheartening, why would you not be able to finish the project?
Originally posted by: Darth Editous
my version of the Emperor scene will be a shot-for-shot replica of the original (the SE DVD changes a lot of the shots around), and will include a side view of Ian McDiarmid saying "He could destroy us" which is not present in the 2006 DVD (how I do that I'll leave you to guess).
So its going to be the original Emperor pictured on the screen with McDiarmid's lines? If thats the case that still isnt a great improvement on the scene, the scene was never that bad to begin with. The hologram in the original left a lot to the imagination which was a good way of doing it and the original lines were never a problem. You could never recreate a good scene with an actor speaking lines in a part 26 (actually more) years after the scene was compeleted.
I know its your project and you can do it to your liking, I just always felt that scene was fine the way it was. It never bothered me for an instant that neither the actor nor the voice was McDiarmid.
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When Luke is on Dagobah when he is being trained and doing a hand stand for the first time, his X-wing can be seen exactly how it looked when it first crashed laned about ¾ above water, then in basically the next shot its just about completely underwater
Then when the heroes are leaving bespin in the millenium falcon when they first notice the super star destroyer the ship takes a hard right and the stars seemingly get brighter
Finally, directly after that shot the Falcon seems to be drifting aimlessly in space (in relation to the stars) as they attempt to make the jump for hyperspace
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You could never recreate a good scene with an actor speaking lines in a part 26 (actually more) years after the scene was compeleted.
Why not? I've seen it done seamlessly, such as with the new cut of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly", for example. - Time
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the hologram looked goofy and out of place in the scene
It will be Ian McDiarmid on screen, but the hologram has been altered.
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Originally posted by: ZombieFlanders
I don't think the Good, the Bad and the Ugly is a good example. I didn't mind Clint's voice, but Eli Wallach sounds completely different. In the original, he has a gruff sounding voice whereas his new lines sound more like Winnie the Pooh. You could never recreate a good scene with an actor speaking lines in a part 26 (actually more) years after the scene was compeleted.
Why not? I've seen it done seamlessly, such as with the new cut of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly", for example. - Time
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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
It will be Ian McDiarmid on screen, but the hologram has been altered.
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It will be Ian McDiarmid on screen, but the hologram has been altered.
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That actually sounds like a good idea...more cloaked like he was in TMP/AOTC is what I guess your going for.
Im sure youll end up making it look great, you do better work than a digital Titan (Lucasfilm) and have less to work with and do it with no monetary gain which is awesome.
Sorry if I was coming off as a dick before. Cant wait to see the final version
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If you can't find a useable audio recording of "Luke", you can use the word "young" from "the young rebel who destroyed...".
"We have a new enemy: Young Skywalker."
Just a thought, although 'Luke' would be better. Sounds great.
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If I'm feeling generous, I'll post a screenshot of the new improved Palpy scene tomorrow. I don't want to get everyone's hopes up for no good reason, because as with everything it's a compromise between what we'd like to see and what's technically possible.
All I meant about not finishing the project was that I'm only progressing very slowly right now, and there's another DVD release around the corner. Does anyone know if it (by which I mean the SE+ part of the disc) is likely to be identical to the first DVD release, or will they fix the window in Cloud City, as was rumoured some time ago?
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I think we talked about that a long time ago.
Oh, and the easiest fix for the Emperor scene is to have him say "We have a new enemy... The offspring of Anakin Skywalker" or maybe combine McDiarmid saying an L sound with "Dook" from "Count Dooku"
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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
Does anyone know if it (by which I mean the SE+ part of the disc) is likely to be identical to the first DVD release, or will they fix the window in Cloud City, as was rumoured some time ago?
Does anyone know if it (by which I mean the SE+ part of the disc) is likely to be identical to the first DVD release, or will they fix the window in Cloud City, as was rumoured some time ago?
I'm pretty sure there is zero changes on the new discs, same menus, etc. It is quite possible that Lucasfilm had an excess of SE DVDs and that these bonus DVDs are mostly an attempt to whittle down their stock before next year's possible Blu-ray releases.
Ooh, a laserdisc. The Cheat's playin' something on a laserdisc.
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) to a comparison of my Paply with the original:http://img15.imgspot.com/u/06/212/06/palpy1154428874.jpg
I hope this meets with some approval...
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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
Here's a link (in case you don't want to ruin the surprise before the release ) to a comparison of my Paply with the original:
http://img15.imgspot.com/u/06/212/06/palpy1154428874.jpg
I hope this meets with some approval...
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Here's a link (in case you don't want to ruin the surprise before the release
) to a comparison of my Paply with the original:http://img15.imgspot.com/u/06/212/06/palpy1154428874.jpg
I hope this meets with some approval...
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ehhh I don’t know I guess I cant get use to seeing most of his face revealed. Compared to the original where you see nothing below the chin, nearly none of the cheek area and the entire forehead is covered in shadow.
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