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Sergio Leone Preservations - Dollars Trilogy, Fistful of Dynamite, Once Upon a Time in the West (Released) — Page 2

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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
how come your not doing a fistfull of dollars? that is my favorite out of all three clint is truly a badass in that movie, and yes I know it was a knock of of yojimbo by kurosawa.


There is an anamorphic uncut dvd with the original English mono soundtrack available from Germany, which is why I decided against it. But I am now thinking about having the alternative Italian mono soundtrack adding to all my edits as well, so will do this film as well.

So I'm thinking of doing this
A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
- Uncut
- Anamorphic Widescreen 2.35:1
- Original English Mono Soundtrack
- Original Italian Mono Soundtrack
- A branched version with the tacked on prologue from the American TV version (if I can figure the branching feature out!)

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The RHV dvd is anamorphic and has both Italian and English mono soundtracks, the only thing that's missing is the USA cable prologue. Anywau if you can ship to Europe I'd be really interested in For a Few Dollars More and GBU with the Italian mono track
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Originally posted by: Kakyoin
The RHV dvd is anamorphic and has both Italian and English mono soundtracks, the only thing that's missing is the USA cable prologue. Anywau if you can ship to Europe I'd be really interested in For a Few Dollars More and GBU with the Italian mono track


Hi
I live in the UK, so not a problem.

I did a test burn of FAFDM on a double layer disc, and it works great. These writable dual layer discs seem more compatible with my 9 year old DVD player than single layer discs, strange !

Still working on GBU at the moment, struggling in fact, especially with finding time

I'll keep posting here with my progress

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Wow! I'm so glad I checked back and looked through the forum today, as to find out that these and Thunderbal are being done have made my week! I actually requested these cuts in the dream edit section of this board, am very glad someone else has had the same idea and has taken it further! I'm a bit of a Leone-geek as well, so here's a few thoughts.

Good The Bad And The Ugly:
I remember thinking that the extended Tuco torture scene that was included on the UK DVD (and I think most/all others as an extra) didn't look that bad - but Lee Van Cleef says a line or two that won't have been dubbed into English. If you can pull it off I'd love to see the full length scene in there

Fistful Of Dollars:
Adding back in the American TV intro as an alternate start would be very slick - is it on the DVD as an extra? I don't remember seeing it.

Fistful Of Dynamite:
The UK version cut out several seconds of horses falling/being shot - be good to get that back in, and I don't know if it would be possible but the centre section of the film surrounding the massacre is all horribly out of chronological order to the point of not making sense, I remeber it being explained in one of the documentaries about them losing a torture scene, so this was the best they could do - but might be worth trying to see if you can get it more in order. What extras are on the Danish DVD?

For a Few Dollars More:
Adding back in the line of dialogue at the fight would be great - why they didn't is just beyond me.

Once Upon A Time In The West:
Great to finally see the extended 10+minute intro only in the Italian version.

Once Upon A Time In America:
I'm not to hot on the different versions of this one, but I know the DVD version is still missing scenes (some of which if I remember were on a Brazillian laserdisc) - a possible future project.

Thanks for doing these and keep up the good work! Any rough estimate one when you'll have any done?
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Originally posted by: charliesheen

Fistful Of Dollars:
Adding back in the American TV intro as an alternate start would be very slick - is it on the DVD as an extra? I don't remember seeing it.



it is on the R2 DVD from Uk but since it was not directed by Leone, I don't think it is a good idea to include it in a longer cut, and it is fullscreen.
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Originally posted by: Ash595
Originally posted by: charliesheen

Fistful Of Dollars:
Adding back in the American TV intro as an alternate start would be very slick - is it on the DVD as an extra? I don't remember seeing it.



it is on the R2 DVD from Uk but since it was not directed by Leone, I don't think it is a good idea to include it in a longer cut, and it is fullscreen.


Correct, this scene was added by the cable station, and it was produced by the cable station. It is foolscreen, and of course it's not Clint in the scene, but a bad stand in. Also, the clothes do not match. And IMHO, it does not fit into the movie in any way.
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it was shot by Director Monte hellman with Harry Dean Stanton. interesting to have it on the dvd, but only as a special feature.
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I am sure that this thread has discussed the special edition DVDs that were released in the UK last year. In fact I believe that many of the Americans here were wondering why Region 1 hadn't been graced with them. Well, here's a verbatim quote from The Digital Bits...

What's more, MGM also confirmed with me that they're finally planning Region 1 versions of those three Sergio Leone DVD special editions that were released last year in the U.K. (A Fistful of Dollars, A Fistful of Dynamite and For a Few Dollars More) sometime in 2007, also to be distributed by Fox. Don't that just beat all?

To contact me outside the forum, for trades and such my email address is my OT.com username @gmail.com

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Currently putting the finishing touches on GBU (subtitles and menus)
Have completed Fistful of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More, here's the specs:

Fistful of Dollars
- Uncut version
- Option to play film with TV prologue
- Original English Mono soundtrack
- Original Italian Mono soundtrack
- PAL Widescreen 2.35:1 Anamorphic

For a Few Dollars More
- Uncut version, restoring extra footage missing from special edition dvds
- Original English Mono soundtrack
- Original Italian Mono soundtrack
- PAL Widescreen 2.35:1 Anamorphic (Some shots being 2.05:1 and pillarboxed to 2.35:1)

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
- Rome Premiere Cut with longer Tuco beating scene
- Shorter Tuco beating scene is included as an extra, as is the lost Socorro sequence
- Original English Mono soundtrack (Italian for scene extensions with subtitles)
- Original Italian Mono soundtrack
- NTSC Widescreen 2.35:1 Anamorphic


My next projects will be working on putting an English soundtrack on the Italian version of Once Upon a Time in the West, and restoring the English mono soundtrack to the uncut Fistful of Dynamite (Duck You Sucker)


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Originally posted by: charliesheen
Good The Bad And The Ugly:
I remember thinking that the extended Tuco torture scene that was included on the UK DVD (and I think most/all others as an extra) didn't look that bad - but Lee Van Cleef says a line or two that won't have been dubbed into English. If you can pull it off I'd love to see the full length scene in there

I have compared the two torture sequences frequently in the last couple of weeks, and the only extra line of dialogue is spoken by the guard outside with the band. This will be subtitled on my DVD.

Fistful Of Dollars:
Adding back in the American TV intro as an alternate start would be very slick - is it on the DVD as an extra? I don't remember seeing it.
It's on the special edition DVD

Fistful Of Dynamite:
The UK version cut out several seconds of horses falling/being shot - be good to get that back in, and I don't know if it would be possible but the centre section of the film surrounding the massacre is all horribly out of chronological order to the point of not making sense, I remeber it being explained in one of the documentaries about them losing a torture scene, so this was the best they could do - but might be worth trying to see if you can get it more in order. What extras are on the Danish DVD?

The Danish DVD has all the same extras as the special edition DVDs. It is fully uncut though, as will my DVD when done.

Once Upon A Time In America:
I'm not to hot on the different versions of this one, but I know the DVD version is still missing scenes (some of which if I remember were on a Brazillian laserdisc) - a possible future project.

Love this film, but there were rumours of them restoring another 40-50 minutes. Might wait and see what happens.

Thanks for doing these and keep up the good work! Any rough estimate one when you'll have any done?


See previous post, almost done the Dollars Trilogy.
The other two planned, might be a while yet.

Thanks for the support, I look forward to hearing from other people when they finally see them.

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Keep us informed with your progress - really looking forward to checking these out!

A few things you may have that would make slick little extras, the German DVD release of FAFDM has a few trailers on it not on any other version, notable
"Dollar films" -German promo trailer
"Nobody films" -German promo trailer

I don't know if you have a copy of the GTBATU Japanese set but it has the US Trailer on it and English DTS soundtrack.

Thanks again for doing these!
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Originally posted by: charliesheen
Keep us informed with your progress - really looking forward to checking these out!

A few things you may have that would make slick little extras, the German DVD release of FAFDM has a few trailers on it not on any other version, notable
"Dollar films" -German promo trailer
"Nobody films" -German promo trailer

I don't know if you have a copy of the GTBATU Japanese set but it has the US Trailer on it and English DTS soundtrack.

Thanks again for doing these!


I had thought about adding more extras like trailers, but have instead concentrated on getting all available footage for each of the films and presenting with original soundtracks.

I have had to compromise a little, adding back the English mono soundtrack to GBU. When I added the English mono soundtrack back to the longer Tuco beating scene, there were noticeable jumps in the music. For the most part it sounds seamless, but I am having to use the Italian audio for a couple of lines "Play that fiddle, you!" and "More feeling". Lee Van Cleef's and Eli Wallach's spoken parts have been left as is, but it isn't always Eli Wallach screaming in that scene now!

I'm having problems adding subtitles to GBU at the moment, if anyone can help me.
I have a .srt file with the subtitles and using Subtitle Workshop to synch them with the film. When I add them to DVD Lab Pro (which compiles a separate .sp1 file), and compile a test DVD, the subtitles are out of synch again which is real pain.

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Great project, LeoneNut! The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly is one of my favorite films and I'd love a copy of these once you finish with this project. Are they going to be single layer DVD or dual-lLayer?
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Originally posted by: Number20
Great project, LeoneNut! The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly is one of my favorite films and I'd love a copy of these once you finish with this project. Are they going to be single layer DVD or dual-lLayer?


They are being mastered for dual layer, but can easily do single layer versions if required.

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Originally posted by: cashiers
Where will these be available?


Fistful of Dollars & For a Few Dollars More are ready

Still some time before GBU will be finished, can't get the subtitles to synch and find the time to do this stuff.
I keep at it though, don't worry

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Can't wait me, keep us posted! Are you going to torrent fistful, and a few dollar more?
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I'm glad to hear that Fistful of Dollars and For A Few Dollars More are finished. I would love to see these torrented so that we can watch them. Sounds like a good job on them!
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I'd love to get them out there available as torrents, but I don't have the bandwidth
If someone can do this for me, that would be great.
People should PM me if there is interest in getting copies.

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I am looking forward to this.

Remember, Highlander, you’ve both still got your full measure of life. Use it well, and your future will be glorious.

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Awesome stuff! I'm really lookign forward to checking these out. I forgot to mention, I've got the original mono vinyl releases of A fistful, the fistful/few dollars more split, and the good the bad and the ugly soundtracks. Not sure if anything on these would be desired as a bonus feature.
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Ok finally finished GBU, doing a final QA.

Final Specs:

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly: Rome Premiere Cut
- Restored uncut Rome Premiere Cut ~ 181 minutes
- Anamorphic 2.35:1 NTSC
- Original English Mono soundtrack (Italian for certain scenes with subtitles)
- Original Italian Mono soundtrack
- Shorter Tuco beating scene and Lost Socorro Sequence as extras

Apologies if you have been in touch recently, have been very busy. Organising a mortgage, buying a house etc...

Will look at getting copies out to people soon

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Had a sleepless night recently, and have done the bulk of my Fistful of Dynamite restoration:

Duck You Sucker (a.k.a. A Fistful of Dynamite)
- Uncut restored version ~ 151 minutes (includes horsefalls censored in the UK)
- Restores original mono soundtrack with missing dialogue reinstated and correct music cues
- Restores Juan's final two lines of dialogue from restored version "Johnny" and "What about me?"
- Uses correct music cue from the Italian version for final flashback and end credits
- Sorting the Versions extra
- Anamorphic 2.35:1 PAL
- Original English Mono Soundtrack
- Italian Stereo Soundtrack (Not the original soundtrack)

I will call it Duck You Sucker from here on, since Juan's final line is "What about me?" and the title "Duck You Sucker" appears. This is the closest translation of the Italian title Giu La Testa also.

I should have a PAL copy of Once Upon a Time in the West soon, the shorter english version that is. I had the NTSC version, and didn't relish syncing the dialogue to the Italian version which is PAL. I will be starting this project very shortly

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