Originally posted by: garethxxgod
What do you mean specifically by this?
I thought the relationship between those two was definately one if not the only saving grace of TPM. I enjoyed how Obi-Wan was clearly on the edge of becoming a Knight, however we still saw his character learn and be somewhat defiant infront of his master and thus become more fleshed out in that sense. For him to be the Master right away could have worked but it was more interesting to see him earning his stripes and thus allow the audience to see how he attained the rank of Jedi Knight.
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
No, I think most of us feel the same way I do. He was a good character, but he detracted from Obi-Wan's established character by doing all the things and acting in all the ways that should have been Obi-Wan.
No, I think most of us feel the same way I do. He was a good character, but he detracted from Obi-Wan's established character by doing all the things and acting in all the ways that should have been Obi-Wan.
What do you mean specifically by this?
I thought the relationship between those two was definately one if not the only saving grace of TPM. I enjoyed how Obi-Wan was clearly on the edge of becoming a Knight, however we still saw his character learn and be somewhat defiant infront of his master and thus become more fleshed out in that sense. For him to be the Master right away could have worked but it was more interesting to see him earning his stripes and thus allow the audience to see how he attained the rank of Jedi Knight.
I'm not saying it didn't come across well, and it wasn't enjoyable. I'm just saying that, based on what we heard in the original trilogy, Qui-Gon essentially is Obi-Wan, and Obi-Wan is just somebody else. Qui-Gon does all the things and acts the way that Old Ben described himself in the OT. Qui-Gon found Anakin. Qui-Gon was immediately impressed with Anakin. Qui-Gon tried to take it upon himself to train Anakin without the approval of the council. It was Obi-Wan who disliked Anakin. It was Obi-Wan who tried to reign his master in. It was Obi-Wan who told Qui-Gon to follow the council. It was Obi-Wan who said the boy was dangerous. See what I'm getting at? Like I said, it's not bad from a dramatic standpoint. Their relationship was one of the good things about the prequels, but it just doesn't make any sense.