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“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds — Page 8
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Five years from now when the SE's have all come out in the theater in 3D, we'll be having this same conversation about why the originals haven't been released on a modern format.
Unless of course they have.
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Originally posted by: Mielr
I guess the TV ads should be starting soon. I wonder if they'll use the same trailer?
I guess the TV ads should be starting soon. I wonder if they'll use the same trailer?
You think that they'll advertise this on T.V.? Curiouser and curiouser for films that "don't exist," don't you think? If I see one on T.V., I'll post about it, but I don't watch all that much lately.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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It’s Not the Years, It’s the Mileage.
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Super Mario Bros. - The Wicked Star Story
"Ah, the proverbial sad sack with a wasted wish."
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Super Mario Bros. - The Wicked Star Story
"Ah, the proverbial sad sack with a wasted wish."
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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
I really wish we could all just legally claim perpetual license to own any future SW releases free of charge since the majority of us all have purchased enough copies to effectively own stock in the franchise. Who else agrees?
I definitely agree. It's ridiculous- how many other films have been released this many times- and still not given a proper DVD release. I personally have owned 8 different sets of the trilogy over the years.I really wish we could all just legally claim perpetual license to own any future SW releases free of charge since the majority of us all have purchased enough copies to effectively own stock in the franchise. Who else agrees?
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Originally posted by: grifter
Quint from AICN has seen some images of the the dvds of the September release, it's not looking good!
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Quint from AICN has seen some images of the the dvds of the September release, it's not looking good!
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Thanks for this info, grifter. It gave me a little fuel to send out another batch of emails to Lucasfilm and Fox even though time is almost up, and I never got a response from my first round.
How can we get this into the public eye so that Lucas can't turn our complaints around on us?
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But, maybe low sales equals "No one wants the OOT."
That's what I'm afraid of as well. But I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Everyone cross their fingers.
Just be patient. It will happen.
That's what I'm afraid of as well. But I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Everyone cross their fingers.
Just be patient. It will happen.
I am not a patient man
. I hope so, but I'd like to get the OOT in high-quality without Lucas dying. And you're forgetting Rick McCallum. “What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
I really wish we could all just legally claim perpetual license to own any future SW releases free of charge since the majority of us all have purchased enough copies to effectively own stock in the franchise. Who else agrees?
I guess there could be some advertising like TV spots done, but I don't really expect much. Maybe I just don't watch as much TV as I used to, but I don't usual see many TV spots for re-releases and special editions of older movies. I really wish we could all just legally claim perpetual license to own any future SW releases free of charge since the majority of us all have purchased enough copies to effectively own stock in the franchise. Who else agrees?
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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
I am honestly really surprised that we aren't seeing ads already. I mean, it is now just about a month away. I mean, they are shooting this release in the foot if they don't notify the general public (the non-Star Wars nerds) about this set. But, maybe low sales equals "No one wants the OOT."
I'm thinking that you may be right with the summation that "low sales=no one wants the OOT". This tactic would seem to be in line with what Lucas said on MTV.com and gives more credence to the idea that Lucas is dealing with us from a stacked deck.
In the thread on Leonard Maltin's response to one of our OT.com co-members, Maltin says "that [Lucas] tends to do exactly as he pleases", but I just sent off a batch of emails to Fox and Lucasfilm just to have done my part.
Originally posted by: andy_k_250
I really wish we could all just legally claim perpetual license to own any future SW releases free of charge since the majority of us all have purchased enough copies to effectively own stock in the franchise. Who else agrees?
I am honestly really surprised that we aren't seeing ads already. I mean, it is now just about a month away. I mean, they are shooting this release in the foot if they don't notify the general public (the non-Star Wars nerds) about this set. But, maybe low sales equals "No one wants the OOT."
I'm thinking that you may be right with the summation that "low sales=no one wants the OOT". This tactic would seem to be in line with what Lucas said on MTV.com and gives more credence to the idea that Lucas is dealing with us from a stacked deck.
In the thread on Leonard Maltin's response to one of our OT.com co-members, Maltin says "that [Lucas] tends to do exactly as he pleases", but I just sent off a batch of emails to Fox and Lucasfilm just to have done my part.
Originally posted by: andy_k_250
I really wish we could all just legally claim perpetual license to own any future SW releases free of charge since the majority of us all have purchased enough copies to effectively own stock in the franchise. Who else agrees?
If Lucas would just give the market what it wanted, we wouldn't need to even fantasize about perpetual license, and he might get even richer in September than he will anyway.
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I'm thinking that you may be right with the summation that "low sales=no one wants the OOT". This tactic would seem to be in line with what Lucas said on MTV.com and gives more credence to the idea that Lucas is dealing with us from a stacked deck
Unless of course the discs do sell well, which, God willing, they will, and then hopefully, Lucas will get the message.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Unless of course the discs do sell well, which, God willing, they will, and then hopefully, Lucas will get the message.
Unless of course the discs do sell well, which, God willing, they will, and then hopefully, Lucas will get the message.
Yeah, hopefully. BTW, your quote says it all; I love it: "Now we must specify that we want high quality versions. Shouldn't that be a given?"
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Originally posted by: darkhelmet
Hey! I got a response from a Lucas Rep, John Singh! Jump to this thread to check it out! Addresses and contacts for various media outlets go in here
Hey! I got a response from a Lucas Rep, John Singh! Jump to this thread to check it out! Addresses and contacts for various media outlets go in here
This is interesting:
"I hope you will have a chance to see these first versions of the movies on DVD when they come out. Those who have been communicating their opinions and beliefs online have not seen the DVDs."
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Originally posted by: Mielr
This is interesting:
"I hope you will have a chance to see these first versions of the movies on DVD when they come out. Those who have been communicating their opinions and beliefs online have not seen the DVDs."
Originally posted by: darkhelmet
Hey! I got a response from a Lucas Rep, John Singh! Jump to this thread to check it out! Addresses and contacts for various media outlets go in here
Hey! I got a response from a Lucas Rep, John Singh! Jump to this thread to check it out! Addresses and contacts for various media outlets go in here
This is interesting:
"I hope you will have a chance to see these first versions of the movies on DVD when they come out. Those who have been communicating their opinions and beliefs online have not seen the DVDs."
Actually, some of them have. But who cares, right? Sell sell sell.
Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived.
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Originally posted by: darkhelmet
"I hope you will have a chance to see these first versions of the movies on DVD when they come out. Those who have been communicating their opinions and beliefs online have not seen the DVDs."
"I hope you will have a chance to see these first versions of the movies on DVD when they come out. Those who have been communicating their opinions and beliefs online have not seen the DVDs."
Except the report darkhelmet linked to at the start of his email.
Muppet...
I love the way Luca$hFilm talk about the remastering as having been done in 2004 and that they never mention the re-edits and CG changes and additions. Oh no, wait, I fucking hate it! My mistake...
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Originally posted by: darkhelmet
Yeah, hopefully. BTW, your quote says it all; I love it: "Now we must specify that we want high quality versions. Shouldn't that be a given?"
Originally posted by: Mike O
Unless of course the discs do sell well, which, God willing, they will, and then hopefully, Lucas will get the message.
Unless of course the discs do sell well, which, God willing, they will, and then hopefully, Lucas will get the message.
Yeah, hopefully. BTW, your quote says it all; I love it: "Now we must specify that we want high quality versions. Shouldn't that be a given?"
Thanks. The problem is, its difficult to argue now because people will say, "Stop whining. Lucas released them. If they didn't sell well, no wanted them."
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
I love the way Luca$hFilm talk about the remastering as having been done in 2004 and that they never mention the re-edits and CG changes and additions. Oh no, wait, I fucking hate it! My mistake...
I love the way Luca$hFilm talk about the remastering as having been done in 2004 and that they never mention the re-edits and CG changes and additions. Oh no, wait, I fucking hate it! My mistake...
I feel your pain. Check this thread for MY BEST IDEA EVER TO BATTLE THE SUB-STANDARD DVD RELEASE!!!
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Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
A further attempt to petition Luca$hFilm is a good idea, I agree. I think that heavyweight film arts organisations are worth getting on board too. The BFI, the AFI, the Academy, etc. I'm sure it would have some impact at Luca$hFilm if these groups joined in criticising their policies with regard to the OOT. I'm talking about their prevention of public screenings of the OOT, as well as the home entertainment releases. I'm waiting on responses from the BFI and AFI at the moment.
A further attempt to petition Luca$hFilm is a good idea, I agree. I think that heavyweight film arts organisations are worth getting on board too. The BFI, the AFI, the Academy, etc. I'm sure it would have some impact at Luca$hFilm if these groups joined in criticising their policies with regard to the OOT. I'm talking about their prevention of public screenings of the OOT, as well as the home entertainment releases. I'm waiting on responses from the BFI and AFI at the moment.
Cool, auraloffalwaffle! Since time is extremely short, would you be interested in a writing campaign to entertainment magazines and/or TV programs (e.g., letters to the editors) stating our point-by-point frustrations with Lucasfilm's treatment of the OOT for DVD?
I'm trying to work up interest from OT.com members so that we can flood these public-facing entertainment news media outlets with mail that they won't be able to ignore.
With quotes from film critic Leonard Maltin, John Singh at Lucasfilm, and comparisons with DVD releases of lesser movies, I'm sure we have a completely logical case to present.
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Why don't you decide which one we write to first, DH?