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27-Jul-2006, 5:35 PM
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Because you didn't bring up any of the real contradictions. There are contradictions, some of which I brought up in my last post that you didn't feel the need to address.

Ben (ROTJ): When I first knew him, your father was already a great pilot, but I was amazed at how strongly the Force was with him. I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi. I thought that I could instruct him just as well as Yoda. I was wrong.

Read that line while you have images of TPM in your head. Does that really seem to match up with this?

Obi-Wan (TPM): The boy is dangerous. The council senses it. Why can't you?

Doesn't sound very amazed to me. Does he to you?

New Emperor scene: Well, I just want to ask you why you think it's better to watch them in numerical order. Since the prequels exist solely to explain the events in the original trilogy, doesn't that ruin the emotional impact? Also, the prequels contain so many "cool" in-jokes to the original trilogy that you simply wouldn't get if you didn't watch the originals first.

The big contradiction. How in the world does Leia remember her mother if her mother died three seconds after she was born? The way ROTJ Leia talks about her, it sounds like they were together for at least a few years before she died. It simply does not make sense that Leia would remember her and Luke not if they were both newborn infants. Explain that one, please.


Basically, they should of had the character of Qui-Gon to have been Obi-Wan instead. That would also make the ages of Obi-Wan and Anakin make more sense.

The problem is that there really is no 'proper viewing order' anymore. If you watch them in numerical order, you ruin the whole "I am your father" bit. I guess that release order (IV-VI;1-III) is better but that one then isn't in chronological order in my opinion leaves the series hanging without a happy ending. I personally like happy endings.

Leia remembering her mother: this is something that shows why prequels are hard to do. Yes, this is a contradiction. But I'm not sure that having Padme live would be a good idea. The character needed closure, and her death does that. Otherwise, you have the question of "whatever happened to Padme?" If she's dead, why? How did she keep her survival secret from Vader/Anakin. Why would she want to, when she seemed to think she could talk some sense back into Anakin and turn him back to the light side. I just don't see how Padme surviving through ROTS would work. But then you are stuck with the contradiction, and the lame attempts to explain it, which usually center around "its the force".

Of course, my personal things I wished they didn't explain was the rule of 2,which then messes up lots of stuff in the OOT. Why did Vader suggest turning Luke to the dark, if he knew there 'couldn't' be three sith? Why didn't Vader let Luke cut Palpatine down in ROTJ? Why couldn't there be three dark Jedi, all working together for evil (this is how I thought it would of worked if Luke turned, when I first saw ROTJ as a kid, and would still like to think of it today.)
I also hated the bit about Palpatine isn't that old in ROTJ, but he's just scarred. And why couldn't they get the make-up in ROTS match ROTJ? Did they not even see how the Emperor looked in that movie?