Originally posted by: boris
It's only evidence because you choose to believe it is. Zion made a good point that they could have been deliberately speeding it up - shaving a couple of seconds here and a couple of seconds there in adverts does make a difference. The crawl looks completely identical to the one in empire of dreams (except for when the SW logo fades). There are so many other explanations available, and you've chosen to jump to conclusions and to believe just one of many reasonable explanations. And the one you've chosen to believe, I feel is much more far fetched then believing that the crawl is the original. So, how do you know the Empire of Dreams crawl is not photoshopped and is the original? Because of the ANH crawl on the 2004 DVD? The ANH crawl on the 2004 DVD was recreated, wasn't it? Surely you must have some better evidence.
Originally posted by: zombie84
Boris, its not plain speculation--its based on evidence! Its based on video examples! LOL! What more do you want! The trailer for the dvd which is designed to sell the OOT's release contains a clip which says in a flaming blue banner "original crawl" and the crawl is clearly not the original crawl. How much more evidence do you need? Clearly the clip proves that it is not the original crawl--all that remains to be seen is if this clip was doctored for the trailer, and this is the only point that is speculatory.
Boris, its not plain speculation--its based on evidence! Its based on video examples! LOL! What more do you want! The trailer for the dvd which is designed to sell the OOT's release contains a clip which says in a flaming blue banner "original crawl" and the crawl is clearly not the original crawl. How much more evidence do you need? Clearly the clip proves that it is not the original crawl--all that remains to be seen is if this clip was doctored for the trailer, and this is the only point that is speculatory.
It's only evidence because you choose to believe it is. Zion made a good point that they could have been deliberately speeding it up - shaving a couple of seconds here and a couple of seconds there in adverts does make a difference. The crawl looks completely identical to the one in empire of dreams (except for when the SW logo fades). There are so many other explanations available, and you've chosen to jump to conclusions and to believe just one of many reasonable explanations. And the one you've chosen to believe, I feel is much more far fetched then believing that the crawl is the original. So, how do you know the Empire of Dreams crawl is not photoshopped and is the original? Because of the ANH crawl on the 2004 DVD? The ANH crawl on the 2004 DVD was recreated, wasn't it? Surely you must have some better evidence.
Boris now you are just talking nonesense. The clip is not identical to EOD at all. The colour is different. The entire background is different. The black levels are different. The composition of the logo is different. Everything that could possibly be different within that frame is different.
We know the EOD is not photoshopped because it is taken from the 35mm originals from the LFL archives. The 2004 SE DVD crawl was not re-created, as far as we know, it remains as it was since 1981.
I am simply looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion. It just happens to be one which you are not happy with. But sometimes the truth can be unpleasant. The only saving grace that can be said is that the crawl will be changed come the actual release but i see no reason or indication that this is so.