Originally posted by: canofhumdingers
wow, Darth adroit, that has the potential to make for a really great opening to an alternate PT. It DEFINATELY has a lot more of that "OT feel" to it.
wow, Darth adroit, that has the potential to make for a really great opening to an alternate PT. It DEFINATELY has a lot more of that "OT feel" to it.
Thanks canofhumdingers. It’s really just me talking out of my ass. It seems that the PT was written without regard to what was said in the OT and I think that’s the biggest failing of the PT.
I think anything that doesn’t invalidate the OT is an improvement over what we ended up with. Let’s review what we know from the OT and I’m sure others can come up with better scenarios than my meager offering:
Ben: “I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father.” – Ben
“General Kenobi, years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars.” - Leia
“There you will learn from Yoda, the Jedi Master who instructed me.” - Ben
“Was I any different when you taught me?” – Ben in response to the following statement by Yoda “Much anger in him, like his father.”
“So was I, if you'll remember.”– Ben in response to the following statement by Yoda “You are reckless!”
“I don't blame you for being angry. If I was wrong in what I did, it certainly wouldn't have been for the first time. You see, what happened to your father was my fault.” Ben from the ESB script
Anakin: “He was the best star-pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior.” – Ben
“He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damned-fool idealistic
crusade like your father did.” – Ben
“A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force.” – Ben
“When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master.” – Vader
““Much anger in him, like his father.” – Yoda
“Luke, I don't want to lose you to the Emperor the way I lost Vader.” – Ben
“You father was seduced by the dark side of the Force.” – Ben
“Anakin was a good friend.” – Ben
“When I first knew him, your father was already a great pilot. But I was amazed how strongly the Force was with him. I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi. I thought that I could instruct him just as well as Yoda. I was wrong.” – Ben
“I also thought he could be turned back to the good side. It couldn't be done. He is more machine now than man. Twisted and evil.” – Ben
“To be a Jedi, Luke, you must confront and then go beyond the dark side - the side your father couldn't get past. Impatience is the easiest door - for you, like your father. Only, your father was seduced by what he found on the other side of the door, and you have held firm.” – Ben ROTJ script
Owen: “That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals. Thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved.” –Ben
“He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damned-fool idealistic
crusade like your father did.” – Ben
“That's your uncle talking.” – Ben in response to the following statement by Luke
“I can't get involved! I've got work to do! It's not that I like the Empire. I hate it! But there's nothing I can do about it right now. It's such a long way from here.”
There is also this interesting tidbit from the ROTJ script, which indicates that Owen was originally slated to be Ben’s brother and provides details about the birth of the twins, “When your father left, he didn't know your mother was pregnant. Your mother and I knew he would find out eventually, but we wanted to keep you both as safe as possible, for as long as possible. So I took you to live with my brother Owen on Tatooine... and your mother took Leia to live as the daughter of Senator Organa, on Alderaan.” – Ben
Later in the same scene Ben was supposed to say the following, “The Organa household was high-born and politically quite powerful in that system. Leia became a princess by virtue of lineage... no one knew she'd been adopted, of course. But it was a title without real power, since Alderaan had long been a democracy. Even so, the family continued to
be politically powerful, and Leia, following in her foster father's path, became a senator
as well. That's not all she became, of course... she became the leader of her cell in the Alliance against the corrupt Empire. And because she had diplomatic immunity, she
was a vital link for getting information to the Rebel cause. That's what she was doing
when her path crossed yours... for her foster parents had always told her to contact me on
Tatooine, if her troubles became desperate.”
I know these were never included in the movies (like the lines from the scripts I mentioned earlier), but they do give you the idea of what George was thinking about for the back story.