Originally posted by: Ozkeeper
Gillean, many of your claims on the process of recording Dark Side of the Moon and the members of Pink Floyd feelings about some of their previous work are in fact wrong. Even a basic search of wikipedia will show you that . There are also a few good books on the band, which I can't be bothered finding and quoting at the moment. Pink Floyd was in our record collection at home before Dark Side was released. It wasn't a matter of a bunch of stoners going into a recording studio and following a set of rules. They were breaking totally new ground with the techniques they used.
The time travel scenario the person asking the questions mentions is from A Sound of Thunder , by Ray Bradbury, first published in 1952. With Delicate Sound of Thunder being the name of the Pink Floyd live album released in 1988 while under the leadership of Gilmour, it would be a stretch of the imagination to think he is not aware of the story. I have no doubt Gilmour is familiar with the concepts presented in this story and mentioned by the interviewer, as they have been presented many times in various media (perhaps most widely seen by visitors to this forum on one of the Simpsons Halloween episodes, with the malfunctioning toaster). I also have no doubt that Gilmour knows who Lucas is and his attempts to re-write Star Wars 'history'.
Gillean, many of your claims on the process of recording Dark Side of the Moon and the members of Pink Floyd feelings about some of their previous work are in fact wrong. Even a basic search of wikipedia will show you that . There are also a few good books on the band, which I can't be bothered finding and quoting at the moment. Pink Floyd was in our record collection at home before Dark Side was released. It wasn't a matter of a bunch of stoners going into a recording studio and following a set of rules. They were breaking totally new ground with the techniques they used.
The time travel scenario the person asking the questions mentions is from A Sound of Thunder , by Ray Bradbury, first published in 1952. With Delicate Sound of Thunder being the name of the Pink Floyd live album released in 1988 while under the leadership of Gilmour, it would be a stretch of the imagination to think he is not aware of the story. I have no doubt Gilmour is familiar with the concepts presented in this story and mentioned by the interviewer, as they have been presented many times in various media (perhaps most widely seen by visitors to this forum on one of the Simpsons Halloween episodes, with the malfunctioning toaster). I also have no doubt that Gilmour knows who Lucas is and his attempts to re-write Star Wars 'history'.
Now you're misrepresenting what I said!
I made NO claims about Pink Floyd's feelings about previous work. I didn't need to do 'a basic search of Wikipedia' because their thoughts on previous work has nothing to do with my point.
I made only two claims about their recording process. My first, they had money backing them. 'A basic search of Wikipedia' tells me they were popular and they were backed by labels, enough to get into one of the best studios. Hmmm, seems I was right. And my second, they didn't develop any new technology for this album. Hmmm, I can't find any 'good books' that tell me they invented the synthesiser, the clock or the cash register; can you point me in the right direction to one that does? They certainly developed a heap of new techniques, they did amazing work, but they weren't limited by technology or money. They were only possibly limited by time, but as Gilmour himself said, 'We worked on it until we thought it was pretty well perfect', so that proves they weren't even limited that way.
I made no claims Gilmour didn't understand the butterfly analogy as again it is beside the point. He is talking purely about making changes to a work he already considered 'pretty well perfect'. The analogy works in that instance, but doesn't apply to the Lucas scenario at all. That said, as I previously mentioned concerning the Lucas question, we can presume Gilmour understood the butterfly reference, but it can't be proven by just that quote. His responses would be the same whether he knew the source of the references or not. Heh, now I'm bringing in arguments with no bearing on my point!
To clarify my point, Gilmour's responses tell us nothing on his thoughts on Lucas' changes. It only tells us that he thinks there is little point changing near perfect works. If you're going to post about an artist 'getting it' then find a quote about them actually referring to the same or a similar situation.
Hehehe, now I'm just going to be a jerk! JediFlyer06, if Gilmour was talking about art in general then can you find some of his complaints about the continual changes to a very culturally important piece of art, the DSotM cover artwork (voted fourth greatest of all time)?
Speaking of the multiple editions of DSotM; none of them are actually unchanged from the previous! Track divisions move back and forth (by up to 13 seconds), fades appear and disappear, The Beatles make guest appearances and then go absent, track credits list and unlist people, completely different audio mixes replace older ones, and tracks are significantly altered on live editions. You can't find a new unaltered original version of DSotM in any stores. I think I better start a website dedicated to the preservation of this important classic!
