Originally posted by: Number20
Agreed. Anyone can mess a movie up or make a great movie.
Originally posted by: greencapt
Now what I *don't* like is when a creator foists their opinion or some particular viewpoint on an audience in an unappropriate setting or in an un-announced way. By this I mean if filmmaker 'X' wants to make a statement about capital punishment they should feel free to make a film about it- and let it be known that 'this is my statement about capital punishment'. Whereas when you go to see a Batman film you expect to see a Batman film... not a film which essentially stands as a homo-erotic fetishist's showcase of rubber nipples and oiled musclemen. At this point the audience disconnects and even if they can't put their finger on it they know something is wrong.
Sadly, this seems to be a thing with Superman. Christopher Reeve, while a great Superman, turned Superman IV into his own personal political statement on nuclear weapons, and it made for a lousy movie. Personal statements are very hard to fit into superhero movies without making a bad movie.
Why must Superman have all the emotional problems,etc? Because the audience must be able to 'connect' with the hero? Why can't Hollywood accept that Superman is just a good person, and wants to do the right thing?
Originally posted by: greencapt
But very little of any of this has to do with Singer's (or anyone's) sexual orientation.
Now what I *don't* like is when a creator foists their opinion or some particular viewpoint on an audience in an unappropriate setting or in an un-announced way. By this I mean if filmmaker 'X' wants to make a statement about capital punishment they should feel free to make a film about it- and let it be known that 'this is my statement about capital punishment'. Whereas when you go to see a Batman film you expect to see a Batman film... not a film which essentially stands as a homo-erotic fetishist's showcase of rubber nipples and oiled musclemen. At this point the audience disconnects and even if they can't put their finger on it they know something is wrong.
Sadly, this seems to be a thing with Superman. Christopher Reeve, while a great Superman, turned Superman IV into his own personal political statement on nuclear weapons, and it made for a lousy movie. Personal statements are very hard to fit into superhero movies without making a bad movie.
Originally posted by: greencapt
Thus the problem I see with 'Superman Returns'- audiences expected to see Superman but instead of a heroic, honorable and (gasp) patriotic character they saw a neurotic, brooding, stalking, whining, emo character who was painted as being the second coming of Jesus. And looking at the box office results the general public had that same disconnect.
Thus the problem I see with 'Superman Returns'- audiences expected to see Superman but instead of a heroic, honorable and (gasp) patriotic character they saw a neurotic, brooding, stalking, whining, emo character who was painted as being the second coming of Jesus. And looking at the box office results the general public had that same disconnect.
Why must Superman have all the emotional problems,etc? Because the audience must be able to 'connect' with the hero? Why can't Hollywood accept that Superman is just a good person, and wants to do the right thing?
Originally posted by: greencapt
But very little of any of this has to do with Singer's (or anyone's) sexual orientation.
Agreed. Anyone can mess a movie up or make a great movie.
Double agreed.
Have you ever heard the jokes some people make about Christopher Reeve's paralysis? I was flipping channels once and I came across this red neck stand up comedy thing once and Larry the Cable Guy was on there and he said "This TV show was so bad, Christopher Reeve stood up, walked over, and changed the channel." A similar joke that has circulated is "This movie was so bad that Christopher Reeve stood up and walked out of the theater."