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the cgi yoda is going to be in the 3-D version of phantom menace in 2007.

With both the theatrical release and dvd version I think that makes three different versions of the phantom menace.

It probably won't be titled episode one special edition, but that's what it is.

I am not one bit surprised that lucas is not finished tinkering with his films.

What a crap- tastic idea a 3-D JAR JAR, LOL!

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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I wouldn't be surprised if he tinkers with the Jar-Jar model at some point.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I had a dream that GL announce that the uber boxset for next year would have a CGI Yoda in ESB and ROTJ

Lucky it was just a dream, but then agian with GL you never know
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Have I spent some years in a coma or something?????
Didn't Episode I just get released not ten years ago????

Could old george really be serious about tinkering with episodes I, II, and III????? If he does, I think that we can't put this down to Buddhism but to insanity. He just doesn't know when to quit.....
Sorry about the mess....
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Originally posted by: Paulus
Have I spent some years in a coma or something?????
Didn't Episode I just get released not ten years ago????

Could old george really be serious about tinkering with episodes I, II, and III????? If he does, I think that we can't put this down to Buddhism but to insanity. He just doesn't know when to quit.....

It is almost a fact at this point that he is going to alter the PT. Not that I mind much, and in any case the original version of those have been circulating in high quality (the edge enhancement on Episode I controversy aside) on DVD for a while now. But that doesn't seem to bother him as much as the OOT. I wish that I could understand this man, I really do.

Well what they could have done is what they done with the alien box set have two versions plus tons of extres !! I wish but it will never happen . Next year GL will bring out (at christmas ) a 12 disk box set !!

Never say never. That could very well happen. And we all know that there will be a boxed set next year. We just need to pray that it will include a proper remastered OOT.

Didn't they want to CGI Yoda in Ep I, thats why a box set wasn't released yet?


Supposedly yes.

I had a dream that GL announce that the uber boxset for next year would have a CGI Yoda in ESB and ROTJ


He wants to. But hasn't Gary Kurtz sworn that as long as there is breath in his body, he will not let Lucas do it?

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I don't hink that mr Kurtz would willingly let them do it.
I would not at all be surprised if the execs are keeping all the high-profile people out of these loops so as that they can say that they had nothing to do with it.
Wouldn't be the first time either.......

I think chances are that GL has already started looking at what he could do to Yoda in V and VI. Although of course if he does actually go ahead and do it, I for one would be very sad that GL has thrown out part of the so-called magic of film and replaced it by digitilization. Of course CGI is good but it should only be used to supplement what is actually there. CGI will never be able to look as real as any model, never!

If I were a religious man I would pray that GL stops tampering with these films, since he is destroying the legacy he helped to create.

May the force help him.....
Sorry about the mess....
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Soon enough, my friend, soon enough.

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Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: Paulus
Have I spent some years in a coma or something?????
Didn't Episode I just get released not ten years ago????

Could old george really be serious about tinkering with episodes I, II, and III????? If he does, I think that we can't put this down to Buddhism but to insanity. He just doesn't know when to quit.....


It is almost a fact at this point that he is going to alter the PT. Not that I mind much, and in any case the original version of those have been circulating in high quality (the edge enhancement on Episode I controversy aside) on DVD for a while now. But that doesn't seem to bother him as much as the OOT. I wish that I could understand this man, I really do.


Actually, that's not at all true. None of the prequels' theatrical versions exist on DVD, and they never have. He couldn't even wait for those to get on DVD before he started tinkering with them. TPM has the most significant (and worst) edits, while ROTS just has one scene transition changed (allegedly), but the fact remains that the theatrical versions of all three prequels have already been supressed much further than even the OOT.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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And there's the rub: Nobody really gives much of a damn about the prequels to complain about the lack of an O-PT. Hell, many of us who support the preservation of the O-OT have gone all out re-editing the PT to our own satisfaction. (Granted, I've done that to the SE as well, but that's only academic. The O-OT is my first love and desperately needs a proper release.)
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Then why is he going to alter it further. This makes no sense!

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I think that another difference is that the changes so far to the PT aren't nearly as intrusive as the PT. He didn't add a whole new song and dance scene, or have Darth Maul shoot first. So few really notice a set of different optical wipes or a couple of new camera angles, etc.

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LOL!! Wouldn't that be Darth Maul slicing first?
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
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And there's the rub: Nobody really gives much of a damn about the prequels to complain about the lack of an O-PT. Hell, many of us who support the preservation of the O-OT have gone all out re-editing the PT to our own satisfaction. (Granted, I've done that to the SE as well, but that's only academic. The O-OT is my first love and desperately needs a proper release.)


Even though I'm not a huge fan of the prequels, I do give a damn, because I'm not just here because I think the Star Wars trilogy's theatrical editions should be preserved, but that of all movies.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I must agree with there....

This is not just abot the O-OT this is about the general principal of him tinkering with these films for no apparent reason. I cannot imagine that when making episodes I, II and III he he had to settle for a lesser scene because he didn't have the time or resources to do it properly the first time around. I mean, Gl has the ILM and SS studios at his feet and he still whines about his films not been good enough to release to the public.

Luckily though, they do still sell vcr's and we all have the O-OT on video, and we can enjoy those whenever we like.....
Sorry about the mess....
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Yes, It's incredibly confusing. I keep wonder if there is some reason for his continuious change that we do not understand. It's not like he wouldn't have been able to do whatver he wanted when maing the prequels. I can't help but think that there is something else going on here.

Even though I'm not a huge fan of the prequels, I do give a damn, because I'm not just here because I think the Star Wars trilogy's theatrical editions should be preserved, but that of all movies.


Don't forget THX 1138. I'd love to see that film someday, but Lucas doesn't seem to want to release it. And T.V. shows. Apart from the idiotic censorships of Tom and Jerry, there is also the situation of the producers of shows like Northern Exposure and Quantum Leap whod don't want to buy the original music. We'll probably never see proper release of those. The recent Justice League season 2 set was released in widescreen after a massive letter writing campaign, but not anamorphic. After complaints, future sets will be 16:9. Why can't I just watch things the way the they were originally presented in high quality on DVD? Is that too much to ask?

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Oh ya THX 1138, what's up with that he should have released both the theatrical and directors cuts. I bet the theatrical cut will come out next year. After they search the LFL archivess they will use a laserdisc master for it
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The problem is that Star Wars is the easiest one of those battles of fans to win. Those shows are all cult shows, and THX 1138 is an obscure art film (albiet one directed by George Lucas), so they'd be much hard to fight for.

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Originally posted by: Mike O

Don't forget THX 1138. I'd love to see that film someday, but Lucas doesn't seem to want to release it. And T.V. shows. Apart from the idiotic censorships of Tom and Jerry, there is also the situation of the producers of shows like Northern Exposure and Quantum Leap whod don't want to buy the original music. We'll probably never see proper release of those. The recent Justice League season 2 set was released in widescreen after a massive letter writing campaign, but not anamorphic. After complaints, future sets will be 16:9. Why can't I just watch things the way the they were originally presented in high quality on DVD? Is that too much to ask?


I loved Northern Exposure- what did they do to those DVDs???

Didn't GL also alter the opening shot of American Graffitti? Was the original version ever released on DVD?

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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Mike O

Don't forget THX 1138. I'd love to see that film someday, but Lucas doesn't seem to want to release it. And T.V. shows. Apart from the idiotic censorships of Tom and Jerry, there is also the situation of the producers of shows like Northern Exposure and Quantum Leap whod don't want to buy the original music. We'll probably never see proper release of those. The recent Justice League season 2 set was released in widescreen after a massive letter writing campaign, but not anamorphic. After complaints, future sets will be 16:9. Why can't I just watch things the way the they were originally presented in high quality on DVD? Is that too much to ask?


I loved Northern Exposure- what did they do to those DVDs???

Didn't GL also alter the opening shot of American Graffitti? Was the original version ever released on DVD?


They compeletely altered most of the original music for many of the episodes because the producer did not want to pay for the rights, so generic music was used instead. No, the original version of AG was never released on DVD and probably never will be.

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Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Mike O

Don't forget THX 1138. I'd love to see that film someday, but Lucas doesn't seem to want to release it. And T.V. shows. Apart from the idiotic censorships of Tom and Jerry, there is also the situation of the producers of shows like Northern Exposure and Quantum Leap whod don't want to buy the original music. We'll probably never see proper release of those. The recent Justice League season 2 set was released in widescreen after a massive letter writing campaign, but not anamorphic. After complaints, future sets will be 16:9. Why can't I just watch things the way the they were originally presented in high quality on DVD? Is that too much to ask?


I loved Northern Exposure- what did they do to those DVDs???

Didn't GL also alter the opening shot of American Graffitti? Was the original version ever released on DVD?


They compeletely altered most of the original music for many of the episodes because the producer did not want to pay for the rights, so generic music was used instead. No, the original version of AG was never released on DVD and probably never will be.


That sucks about NE - that show used great music! I remember the one where they used the Lindsey Buckingham track ("D.W. Suite" - I think it was called)

Sucks about AG too!

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And Quantum Leap and THX 1138. Lucas seems to feel that the original should be buried.

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Originally posted by: Mike O
And T.V. shows. Apart from the idiotic censorships of Tom and Jerry, there is also the situation of the producers of shows like Northern Exposure and Quantum Leap whod don't want to buy the original music. We'll probably never see proper release of those.

With Quantum Leap though the music people got greedy after one of thier lawyers found a loophole. Since in thier original contracts they used "future video releases" rather then, "future media releases"[or some other generic term] they argued DVD isn't officially "video". So, they asked for more money for every single song. So, they just pay for the songs that Sam sings(usually). Some other songs stay in if thier important to the story or, they don't have a lawyer after them for that song. So, it's greed from the music people that prevents the original songs from being on the dvd's. However, if a new video standard is made and, it's refferred to as, video; Quantum leap's music would be able to be the original without legal entanglements.
Basically, the Quantum Leap people have already payed for the rights but, a loophole means they have to pay twice.

I don't know about Northern Exposure though.


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From Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:

video being, relating to, or used in the transmission or reception of the television image.

Don't DVD players transmit a television image? I guess their lawyers didn't have a dictionary. LOL!

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Originally posted by: sunday256
No need to flame the PT. If you dislike it so, post in another more appropriate thread. Some of us enjoy OT as well as the PT.


Not many of us. Couting yourself, I think the total is somewhere around one.
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Originally posted by: Mielr
From Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:

video being, relating to, or used in the transmission or reception of the television image.

Don't DVD players transmit a television image? I guess their lawyers didn't have a dictionary. LOL!

I think the music lawyers must have used the arguement that DVD can do more then just be used for video. Thus, making it a digital medium and, not just a simple video(like VHS or, Beta). The Quantum Leap people definitely needed better laywers though.


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