Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
Fanboys know Obi-Wan’s statement is a lie. If any real message can be drawn from the PT regarding the Jedi Order it is that they were too dogmatic. EVERYTHING was Black and White with the Jedi and that contributed to their downfall. The Sith were the group that embraced a larger view of the force; they were the order that saw shades of grey. The one PT Jedi (Qui-Gon) that tried to direct the order to a more open interpretation of the force was kept off the council for his efforts. The Jedi had their dogma, it worked for generations and it was based on their ideal that the force was black and white. Didn’t Obi-Wan lecture Qui-Gon to be more Orthodox throughout TPM? To someone familiar with the GFFA Ben’s statement is total bull shit.
Fanboys know Obi-Wan’s statement is a lie. If any real message can be drawn from the PT regarding the Jedi Order it is that they were too dogmatic. EVERYTHING was Black and White with the Jedi and that contributed to their downfall. The Sith were the group that embraced a larger view of the force; they were the order that saw shades of grey. The one PT Jedi (Qui-Gon) that tried to direct the order to a more open interpretation of the force was kept off the council for his efforts. The Jedi had their dogma, it worked for generations and it was based on their ideal that the force was black and white. Didn’t Obi-Wan lecture Qui-Gon to be more Orthodox throughout TPM? To someone familiar with the GFFA Ben’s statement is total bull shit.
Oh, Iagree, the line itself is completely illogical. I'm just skeptical that it was ever meant to be a direct dig on George Bush. I'm more inclined to think that Lucas just has a certain outlook of the world that is completely irrational and inconsistent, and thus that was the actual source of the line. Certain secularists have the hypocritical viewpoint that moral absolutes are wrong and I bet Lucas was making a crippled attempt to voice something to that affect. Just because certain political debates currently seem to be at the forefront does not mean he was purposely aiming to bring those politics into his movies and therefore criticize "those Christian concervatives" or whatever.
Oh, and to clarify, I believe Lucas will offend people all the time, and be very stubborn about it all, but that's mostly because of his personality flaws and his bad moves. Rarely are his offenses part of some intentional wish on his part if you ask me. I don't believe he is the type to offend people in a large scale fashion if he can help it since that would hurt his most beloved profits.