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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Personally, I like the character of Elan, it is just the name that is stupid. But that is really just an issue of the credits, which I don't read. Not at home at least. And Death Sticks is a great name for a drug. It seems like it is something that they would call it.
Personally, I like the character of Elan, it is just the name that is stupid. But that is really just an issue of the credits, which I don't read. Not at home at least. And Death Sticks is a great name for a drug. It seems like it is something that they would call it.
Just curious - can you think of another drug that has "death" in the name?
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1. That's one budget alien getup. Sketchy even by Star Trek standards. In fact, paint him blue, and I believe he is a Star Trek alien. You know, the white haired ones. And his voice sucks too.
2. Obi-Wan says he's going to the bar for a drink. We don't need to see him get there and order it.
3. I know the Jedi uniform isn't standardized, but most Coruscanti should know what one generally looks like. It's like trying to sell crack to uniformed police officer. Doesn't happen.
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Originally posted by: Slumberland
Terrible scene, and useless, regardless of the character name.
1. That's one budget alien getup. Sketchy even by Star Trek standards. In fact, paint him blue, and I believe he is a Star Trek alien. You know, the white haired ones. And his voice sucks too.
2. Obi-Wan says he's going to the bar for a drink. We don't need to see him get there and order it.
3. I know the Jedi uniform isn't standardized, but most Coruscanti should know what one generally looks like. It's like trying to sell crack to uniformed police officer. Doesn't happen.
Terrible scene, and useless, regardless of the character name.
1. That's one budget alien getup. Sketchy even by Star Trek standards. In fact, paint him blue, and I believe he is a Star Trek alien. You know, the white haired ones. And his voice sucks too.
2. Obi-Wan says he's going to the bar for a drink. We don't need to see him get there and order it.
3. I know the Jedi uniform isn't standardized, but most Coruscanti should know what one generally looks like. It's like trying to sell crack to uniformed police officer. Doesn't happen.
All good points.
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Actually, since I don't watch Star Trek, I never would've known!
2. Obi-Wan says he's going to the bar for a drink. We don't need to see him get there and order it.
Well, stuff like that happens in Star Wars all the time...not to mention other movies.
People say stuff, then they do it. What's wrong with that?
3. I know the Jedi uniform isn't standardized, but most Coruscanti should know what one generally looks like. It's like trying to sell crack to uniformed police officer. Doesn't happen.
Eh, I guess I never saw them as police. I thought of them more like monks who know how to sword fight.
I get the impression that the Jedi don't hang out with many outside their own group or whatever.
I've thought that some might know who they are, but some might not.
So the guy asking him (not knowing what a jedi really looks like) if he wants to buy these sticks seems plausable.
Just my thoughts!
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Well, stuff like that happens in Star Wars all the time...not to mention other movies.
People say stuff, then they do it. What's wrong with that?"
Don't misunderstand me. I just mean that if you wanted to chop out that scene for reasons of personal taste, you're not losing any critical information.
And for the record, I don't watch Trek either, but I do have a fondness for the fourth film with the whales, and I remember those blue aliens from the end when Kirk faces the tribunal. They bothered me when I was a kid, too.
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Don't misunderstand me. I just mean that if you wanted to chop out that scene for reasons of personal taste, you're not losing any critical information.
Gotcha.
If you want to cut out the Death sticks guy out completely there's an alternate angle in the Good to G.O. documentary. Also in there is an angle that focuses less on Lucas's daughter/Ahmed best and, focuses on Anakin. Just ideas on what you could use.
Gotcha.
If you want to cut out the Death sticks guy out completely there's an alternate angle in the Good to G.O. documentary. Also in there is an angle that focuses less on Lucas's daughter/Ahmed best and, focuses on Anakin. Just ideas on what you could use.
I don't remember that at all! I'm gonna check it out now!
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Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
Eh, I guess I never saw them as police. I thought of them more like monks who know how to sword fight.
Eh, I guess I never saw them as police. I thought of them more like monks who know how to sword fight.
I'd agree with your description - on the other hand, though, if dumb little slave-boy Anakin on BF Tatooine can pick out Qui-Gon Jinn as a Jedi (based on his "laser sword" and not some sort of psychic Jedi-gaydar), they can't be that hard to spot.
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-First of all, if any of you were looking for 3PO dialogue in the radio dramas, you can stop now. I had some free time on my hands with the radio dramas, and I searched for and found appropriate dialogue that was clean enough to use in the movies. From this dialogue, I scripted the scene by hand, and then edited it and put it together in the editor. Then, I recorded my ADR and inserted music. This is much more methodical than I usually approach scenes, but it worked out wonderfully. 3PO's introduction is now wonderful and hilarious, in my opinion. Even his gestures match his new dialogue. I won't give it away; I want you to see it for yourself when the time comes.
-Secondly, there's a very good chance that there will be some special effects work on SOTDS that I do not have a hand in. Right now, we're figuring out what is and isn't possible in terms of what my target scenes for FX were.
-Thirdly, I have downloaded Nanner Split's ADR recordings for LAMA-SU, the prime minister of Kamino. What a marvelous performance! Quiet and creepy, just what I wanted. Believe me, the finished scenes feel nothing like a fan-film. What a high-quality performance! Thank you, Nanner Split.
It's so eerie to hear the new scenes I've scripted (particularly Lama-Su's "Brave new world" speal during the second scene) delivered so well by another voice. Again, I won't ruin the surprise by giving you the script for these scenes. Now, NS is away this month, but he did forget two lines of dialogue from his first scene, so I'll see if these can't be recorded when he comes back.
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Regarding the death sticks sequence, I still like it, despite the guy's costume and the name (the latter of which I can change). As far as someone trying to sell "death sticks" to a Jedi, keep in mind that in the OT, Jedi were a really low-profile kind of group. Tarkin himself thinks Vader's just a left-over remnant of that "ancient religion". 20 years is not enough time to forget all about the Jedi; therefore, they must have always been kind of a secret association. Again, this is something I would've changed in the PT. There was never a standardized "Jedi uniform" in the OT. People didn't know what they were messing with until AFTERWARDS. Luke was dressed completely in black for ROTJ. It's just something that they made formulaic for the PT, as someone else was talking about.
Anyway, I do agree that the term "death sticks" is someone inane for the name of a drug. The problem is, the words are said three times, twice by the alien and once by Kenobi. Replacing it will likely not work. The only thing I can think of is shortening it to "sticks." Maybe it's a slang word.
"You want to buy some sticks?"
"You don't want to sell me sticks."
Maybe that would work?
More later,
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Originally posted by: Trooperman
Anyway, I do agree that the term "death sticks" is someone inane for the name of a drug. The problem is, the words are said three times, twice by the alien and once by Kenobi. Replacing it will likely not work. The only thing I can think of is shortening it to "sticks." Maybe it's a slang word.
"You want to buy some sticks?"
"You don't want to sell me sticks."
Maybe that would work?
Anyway, I do agree that the term "death sticks" is someone inane for the name of a drug. The problem is, the words are said three times, twice by the alien and once by Kenobi. Replacing it will likely not work. The only thing I can think of is shortening it to "sticks." Maybe it's a slang word.
"You want to buy some sticks?"
"You don't want to sell me sticks."
Maybe that would work?
I like that.
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Bad idea! Terrible idea!!!
Nah just jokes
Many moons ago I posted a big long rant in this thread about how bad an idea this was going to be. Since you like honesty I'll tell you there's still some things that strike me as mega dodgy (the Dune footage for instance). I like a lot of the ideas you're coming up with (the speed-shifting of Yoda footage is clever) and I cannot fault you for the effort you're putting in.
I'll do my best to reserve judgement, if anything this will certainly be interesting when it's done. Here's to it (raises glass)
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
You wanna buy some sticks? That doesn't mean anything.
You wanna buy some sticks? That doesn't mean anything.
Sure it does. If nothing else, it means just as much as "You wanna buy some death sticks?"
I mean, if someone said, "You wanna buy some rocks?" you would probably know what they meant. I didn't think of this till now, but sticks on its own makes a nice direct connection to rocks ("sticks" and "stones"). I mean, drug slang isn't necessarily supposed to be clear, especially if it is an alien drug.
It's just like in "Minority Report" when they talk about Tom Cruise's character being "a cop on the whiff" - you don't have to know what whiff is, just to know that it's a drug, and you can tell by the way they say it. Hopefully, you still can here - maybe not, though.
I guess I just really hate this part of the movie, though, so I am probably pretty biased. I could be wrong.
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
I think the fact that an elaborate explanation is required for sticks ought to indicate that it is a bad idea.
I think the fact that an elaborate explanation is required for sticks ought to indicate that it is a bad idea.
Ha - good point.
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I honestly don't see "You wanna buy some sticks?" any less understandable than "You wanna buy some death sticks?" I really think "sticks" is much more on par with typical real world drug names than "death sticks" is.
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"you don't have to know what whiff is, just to know that it's a drug, and you can tell by the way they say it. Hopefully, you still can here - maybe not, though."
comment helped a lot, because now the dealer says, "You want to buy some...sticks?" It's a lot more clear that it's a drug than it was before, when his delivery was simply, "You want to buy some sticks?"
If it bothers you, Sluggo, I can upload an AC3 mix with the "death sticks" lines intact. After the DVD's are made, it really won't be difficult to change the audio mix, as long as the video is unaffected. As I said a while ago, I could even go Ben Burtt on this movie and create 7 different audio mixes for different audiences, all with different content
Many moons ago I posted a big long rant in this thread about how bad an idea this was going to be. Since you like honesty I'll tell you there's still some things that strike me as mega dodgy (the Dune footage for instance). I like a lot of the ideas you're coming up with (the speed-shifting of Yoda footage is clever) and I cannot fault you for the effort you're putting in.
Zebonka.. I remember you! You've come around a bit. Fantastic news! Now, the only one left to convert is "The Bizzle". His contention was that my new ADR for Anakin could not possibly be as good as Hayden's, because I'm not getting paid.
We'll see about that
Your comment about the Dune footage is interesting, along with the couple of others who've expressed concern over this. The idea was very well received when it first came out, and now I'm starting to hear the other side.
This is a good time to talk about this, because I am just beginning work on the arena, the clone war, the pursuit of Dooku, and so on. What does everyone think? Are the red and black soldiers a good idea (if set up by Nute Gunray beforehand), or will it be distracting? Should I use Holst's "Mars" for the soundtrack, or will that be distracting? I know it's a very well known piece, but it went so well with the sequence.
See, my actual vision of the Clone War won't be possible (at least, for this edition). I planned shots of TIE fighters racing towards camera, grenades being thrown across trenches, men sitting at control desks inside bases or ships (intercut with the fighting), and so on. None of this will be possible at this point. But my idea behind the Lawrence and the Dune footage was that if we're going to have a battle without any meaning behind it or characters to follow (as in the original), I at least wanted to show some hand to hand combat.
But this is a great time to hear any more thoughts that any of you have for the arena and the clone war. Even small things such as the order of shots that you'd prefer. There are a million ways to cut this, and although I've seen other editor's ideas on this, I want to hear yours. Obviously we're going to be having new music, a lot of new sound effects, impact flashes, and desaturation of CGI all around (and new mike sounds for the troopers
), so there aren't many limitations on what I can do regarding sequencing. -TM
P.S. Just a reminder- if someone could upload track 10 from the "Attack of the Clones" soundtrack, that'd be great (in the open or via PM). This track is for some reason corrupted on my backup copy, and the original no longer exists. This would be quicker than buying another copy of the soundtrack for one cue.
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Have you thought about using the link that SomethingStarWarsRelated posted (http://fanfilms.theforce.net/User_SearchPI.asp). With that you might be able to get someone to do the fx for those ideas that your not able to do to. But then agian everyone on TFN would never want there precious PT touched to match the OOT
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I have a suggestion that I don't know exactly how to impliment-- but the idea would be to introduce a mini-story that gets told through the sound-track of clone-soldiers speaking on com-link. It would echo the way com-link dialogue made the Death Star run work.
If we had a little of this:
CLONE 1: "TC17, see if you can get past that first droid line"
CLONE 2: "I think I've got it-- NOOOO!"
CLONE 3: "We lost TC17-- Mothar Squad, get over there now!"
CLONE 1: "Roger"
CLONE 3: "They're coming in on Rolling Artilery Batteries now, launch the counter-measure!"
CLONE 4: "Launching."
Whatever. Keep the tone cool and collected-- Stormtrooper-esque. But paint a picture with words that kind of lays into the background of the sequence and starts to build drama. Let the leader name a target (like the launching transports that Anakin finally helps stop) -- and write lines that get the Clones closer and closer to their target.
This added dialogue would bring the sequence a kind of "guide" which would really help shape that battle and give it a little more form. Things should be pretty tough for the clones too, I think. It would be nice to hear a lot of them die, though we'd also hear how little the remaining clones care about their fallen brothers.
Just an idea.
By the way, I vigorously vote YES for the use of Mars. I think as an inspiration to Williams, it makes the grade of being kosher. If you think it works, go for it.
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About the Dune and Lawrence footage however, in that clip you posted sometime ago they looked pretty good, but the live action and the CGI contrasted quite a bit. Another concern I would have would be the red soldiers from Dune, for anybody who has seen Dune they would be instantly recongnizable. That might be the difference between making this a good replacment for Attack of the Clones or it just being another cool fan edit.
I think MTHaslett has a pretty interesting point with the whole com-link idea. Look back at Star Wars, in the trench run, we see a lot of shoots of x-wings and Y-wings moving through the trench, we see turret firing at them, and we see tie-fighters, but holding all that action together is the pilots communicating via their com systems. Imagine that whole scene without the inside the cockpit shoots and without the pilots communicating with each other and you might have something a slight bit like, but not near as poorly done as the opening battle of the clone war.
Thinking about it, if you cut things a little differently and add in narritive by means of com-link communication, you could possibly make that scene work as part of the movie instead of a jumbled up LucasArts advertisment. Of course you are the one editing it all, so it is for you to say whether this is feasible or not.
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