Originally posted by: Karyudo
When the copyright legislation allows consumers to make personal backups as part of fair use / fair dealing, and DRM/DMCA prevents the consumer from making that backup, then that is anti-consumer.

I do have "intangible legal proof": Bill C-60, which was first read in Parliament in June, 2005, but has not yet been passed, contains language that might make it illegal to circumvent DRM. Ergo, it is not currently illegal to do so.

First, copyright legislation here in NZ does not make any provisions for "fair use", etc. Nor is circumventing DRM specifically illegal - however unauthorized copying is - and always has been - illegal. As I understand it, it is certainly illegal to create unauthorized copies for private use of commercial DVD's in Canada.

Again, it's not anti-consumer to prevent copies being made - it's good business. DVD publishers are required by law to replace any defective DVD. And I know some people may just want to copy DVD's so their kids don't scratch up the originals, etc - however there is no need to legalize that. Some people, take "consumer rights" way too far. If so many consumers weren't so neglectfully disrespecting copyrights all the time - hiding under the term "consumer rights", then the studios wouldn't have been inspired to protect their products more - and take it too far. Yes they take it too far - but consumers take what they think their rights are way too far as well. All I want is for there to be no region-coding - I don't believe Hollywood has that right - and no encrypted video/audio outs, so that I - and everyone I know can enjoy legally purchased products the way we would like. I don't give squat about not being able to copy it - I'll live, it won't bother me one little bit.

We live in a capitalistic world Karyudo, and if you think they should be forced to sell people their product "ie: forced to let them use it publicly" - then you're not embracing capitalism at all, but you think that you (consumers) should be able to dictate what publishers and copyright holders (businesses) have to do. It is their sovereign right to choose who they want to sell their products to, and who they don't want to sell their products too. Hell, if some kid comes in to buy alcohol and he's got a valid ID to show he's 18 and you think "well you look 13" - it's your sovereign right to tell him where to stick it, and to refuse sale. In fact, anyone in any business anywhere has that right.