Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape

Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes
Leia's memory of Padme can be explained by Yoda in ESB:

"Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future... the past. Old friends long gone."

Which, once again, is refuted by Lucas himself, back in the 1980s who said that he wanted one of the twins to have memories of their mother. Not Force-induced visions, but actual memories. There's a huge difference. To make ourselves feel better, sure, we can rationalize it, but if you want to get to the nitty-gritty, George dropped the ball, and that's all there is to it.

Sure it's a rationalization, but you're basing this off something Lucas said 20+ years ago? Heaven knows the guy's changed his mind more often on the backstory than that.

And of course Lucas made up Leia being Luke's sister as he was going along!

That's true. I'd been wondering when somebody was going to call me on that. And it's also true that, especially over the course of movie series, you have to accommodate changing directions in the storyline. But there has to be a limit. And the reference in Return of the Jedi is so explicit that it's nearly impossible to rationalize away! It's not something that can just be chalked up to George's mind changing. It's not a 60 year old comic book series where the continuity can change at will. When George decided that one of the kids had to remember their mother and put it in that movie that way, it became set in stone (until he decides to remove the scene when he comes to realization that he screwed up in ROTS... and we all groan and bash him for his flawed logic and lack of fact checking and overall dickheadedness). I mean, how far are we going to let him go? If he suddenly decided to say, "No. Luke didn't really blow up the Death Star. Vader actually manipulated the Force to move the exhaust port right in line with Luke's torpedo in an effort to rebel against his master, the Emperor. All that trying to shoot Luke down was just an attempt by Vader to make it look more convincing," are we going to be able to accept that too as just Lucas changing his mind?

I think not...