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You're probably right. I'm definitely going to try Best Buy. Target just doesn't seem to have good prices anymore, though I'm betting that I'll be buying from Circuit City. I rarely buy new DVD's anywhere else now. Circuit City almost always has the best price on new releases at the standard 13.99. I'm not willing (usually) to pay the 16 dollars or more that Best Buy and Target have. Just too much for a DVD. But 13 is good, I'm betting that's what the september releases will be.
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
You're probably right. I'm definitely going to try Best Buy. Target just doesn't seem to have good prices anymore, though I'm betting that I'll be buying from Circuit City. I rarely buy new DVD's anywhere else now. Circuit City almost always has the best price on new releases at the standard 13.99. I'm not willing (usually) to pay the 16 dollars or more that Best Buy and Target have. Just too much for a DVD. But 13 is good, I'm betting that's what the september releases will be.

Yeah, I'd say you're definitely going to see a better price than the $19.99 that Amazon is showing right now (although, they'll eventually have a sale as well, but without a gift).

I usually end up buying from Best Buy, because they usually have the best "Gift With Purchase". But, I'll be checking all the flyers from the Sunday newspaper on Sept. 10th to see who has what.

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I understand the bitterness here, feel it myself. Hell, I can even understand the viewpoint of those who say 'buy them to ensure the future of the OOT'.

But y'know what I'm gonna do....wait I few months, and get 'em cheap on ebay. Doubt I'll ever even watch them. Why, you might ask. For the same reason I have 8 different VHS releases of the trilogy....cos I'm a hardcore geek and it looks good on my shelf!

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Originally posted by: daveytod
I understand the bitterness here, feel it myself. Hell, I can even understand the viewpoint of those who say 'buy them to ensure the future of the OOT'.

But y'know what I'm gonna do....wait I few months, and get 'em cheap on ebay. Doubt I'll ever even watch them. Why, you might ask. For the same reason I have 8 different VHS releases of the trilogy....cos I'm a hardcore geek and it looks good on my shelf!
I think that would be a mistake. Remember these are going out of print on 12/31- so I'm sure there are going to be a bunch of eBay sellers buying up a bunch of the DVDs, then selling them after 12/31 with jacked-up prices. If you want them- you should buy them when they come out.

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I am not gonna buy them when they come out as I have enough OT fan DVDs at home to last me a lifetime. Im waiting til Nov/Dec if I buy them as they will have hopefully dropped down as some of the online DVD sites have sales around then and its a low price I dont care so much about this anyway anymore Im personally more excited about XO Project and would rather give money to that.
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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
I am not gonna buy them when they come out as I have enough OT fan DVDs at home to last me a lifetime. Im waiting til Nov/Dec if I buy them as they will have hopefully dropped down as some of the online DVD sites have sales around then and its a low price I dont care so much about this anyway anymore Im personally more excited about XO Project and would rather give money to that.

The XO project does sound exciting, but is the picture quality really going to be better than the official DVDs? (in terms of resolution, that is.)

I guess we'll find out when the DVDs arrive on 9/12. It will be very interesting to compare them to the XO versions when the project is finished.

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Arr. Damn it. I *still* can't decide whether to get the September release or not! It's very frustrating . . . I'm a little tight on cash with bills to pay and all, and planning a cross-country vacation in October to meet the lady friend; and I'm already pretty happy with my Editdroid set, plus there's the X0, whenever that is finished. But still . . . the fye.com $7 rebate on each one is pretty tempting, and I want to see how the set looks. Oh I dunno. The rebate offer is good until 9/25, so I can wait until after it's come out to decide, I guess. *shrug*

I'm not even thinking about the principle of the matter so much, just what I can afford, and the quality of what I want to watch . . .
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After the months of speculation on this board as to how these DVDs are going to look, I don't know how anyone could resist buying the 9/12 DVDs (I know, I know- there are a few of you) I guess one could always rent them first (if they're going to be available for rental- who knows?)

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GL is ripping us off
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I'm going to wait until it's near the release date and see who has the cheapest price. I AM DEFINITELY BUYING THEM. I've been waiting for the OOT for a long time and it's finally here! Does it suck that they may be letterboxed instead of anamorphic? YES. Will it still be the BEST transfer we've seen of these movies? YES!

I've been coming to this board for quite some time now. I've made a few copies from my various laserdiscs over the years and enjoyed coming here to see what others have been working on. I've downloaded various "fan made" discs and also purchased bootlegs online before (which has cost me as much as what I'll end up paying for the official releases when they come out). I'm sure many of you have done the same!

Everyone on this board has waited patiently for this to be released... even after George Luca$ has stated that he would never release them. Those that are bit**ing on this board about "buying what Lucas throws at us" are the same people that bought the SE dvd's (even though that version is exactly what MOST of us here didn't want). But, we bought them anyway... WHY? Because it was STAR WARS and we thought that may be the only version we were going to get! Isn't that "buying what Lucas throws at us" simply because we wanted a digital version of our beloved movies? It's not really how we wanted them, but we still bought them. I can honestly say, I've owned the SE DVD's since the day they were released, and I have yet to watch them! Still, I wanted these movies in my DVD collection, even though it wasn't the version I wanted.

This board has existed mainly for us fans to stick together and try to preserve the OOT's as they were meant to be. We've waited anxiously for the release of the X0 project (which looks to be a great quality project, but most likely will not match the quality of these upcoming official dvd's). Honestly, I think most of us have gotten used to bit*hing about them not officially releasing these films, and now that they are, we still need something to bit*h about!

Do I think George Lucas is wrong for relasing these in non-anamorphic? Absolutely! Will I buy them? Absolutely! Am I buying them just for the sake of buying them? Absolutely not! The fact is that these will be the BEST way of seeing these films on dvd... PERIOD! It will be better than the dvd's I've made. It will be better than any other "fan made" version. And although I haven't had a chance to view the X0 discs, I'm willing to bet these will look better than that! I still look forward to one day viewing the X0 discs (assuming they finish the project). I think it's amazing what those guys are doing, but the fact is the materials they are using doesn't compare to Luca$' master sources.

Personally, I think GL is an idiot and in all honesty is a talentless hack! If you had asked me my opinion on the man before the SE's and before the prequels, I would've given nothing but praise of the man (after all, I've been a STAR WARS collector and fan for most of my life - I'm 36 years old). However, after seeing the Prequel Trilogy, I can't help but think that GL was just lucky with the original trilogy and doesn't have the talent to recreate the magic. The Prequel Trilogy is garbage... 100% garbage!

To all of those that are saying they won't be buying these when they come out in September, I don't believe it! There may be some that "stick to their guns", but we are all STAR WARS geeks (myself included) and we've all been dying for these to come out. I wish I could never give Luca$ another cent of my money, but the fact is I want these dvd's! If he comes out with an anamorphic release 5 years later, well then I'll be buying another set then!! And so will most of you.....

I bet if you go back through these boards from the time this site was started, you will find most were just begging to get a legitimate copy of the OOT, PERIOD! I'm sure we all weren't saying "I guess I would buy an OOT dvd IF and ONLY if it's Anamorphic, or it has XYZ extras, etc.). No, we didn't care, we just wanted a quality dvd release from Luca$. Well, this may not be what we ideally want, but it is the OOT and I have no doubts that FOX is going to release a set of quality dvd's! As a company, FOX would be stupid to release a set of DVD's that have the same crappy quality as the fan-made sets that are out there! Yes, most fan made versions are "crap" compared to an actual dvd release! Don't get me wrong, I love the sets that have been put out there, and all that have worked on them should truly be acknowleged for their efforts.. .but the fact is that they do not compare to an average dvd release, NOR SHOULD THEY! They are after all, fan made films that came from mediocre sources at best (used LD's and vdeotapes).

I'm sure what I've said may piss some people off (I guess they'll just have something else to bit*h about). That's not what I'm trying to do. I guess I just find it a little ridiculous that so many "fans" are "boycotting" this release, but in reality I think it's all b.s.! You know you will be in line right in front of me the day that these are released in the stores!

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Originally posted by: RickWJ324 I've downloaded various "fan made" discs and also purchased bootlegs online before (which has cost me as much as what I'll end up paying for the official releases when they come out). I'm sure many of you have done the same!
--RickWJ324

In your opinion, how good/bad is the quality of the fan made discs you've downloaded?

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I believe I've seen most of the ones that are out there. They range from very BAD quality to very GOOD quality. As I stated in my last post, there have been some that have done amazing work, considering the source material they work with. However, I don't feel that any of them are as good as what Fox will be releasing. Could Fox release a better set than what they are releasing? YES. But I have to believe that their STUDIO PRODUCED dvd is going to be way beyond what we've seen from the fan-made dvd's. How could they not?! They are working with far better sources and FAR SUPERIOR equipment than any of us could hope to use (including the top-of-the-line X0 LD player). I don't say this to knock the X0 project or any other LD transferred dvd, I'm just stating the truth.

I've bought 2 laserdisc players over the last few years (including a top notch Pioneer CLD-97 player) and also have bought no less than 4 copies of the laserdiscs (including a FACTORY SEALED copy of the DEFINITIVE COLLECTION). I've made what I consider to be excellent dvd's and most of my friends and family think they are great. However, there's no way it could compare to what FOX is releasing!

Again, I'm just as disappointed as everyone else on this board that they are not ANAMORPHIC, however I'm not going to fool myself into thinking that I'm not buying these dvd's. I'm sure the money hungry Lucas (or FOX without Lucas being behind them) will release these films again. Probably anamorphic, probably BluRay/HD-DVD, and probably whatever format lies beyond that. In the meantime, I'm going to thoroughly enjoy these films when they are released in September! And so will most of you!!

--RickWJ324
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But remember, Lucas isn't doing any remastering, so the X0 project probably WILL end up looking better than the official releases.
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
But remember, Lucas isn't doing any remastering, so the X0 project probably WILL end up looking better than the official releases.


Isn't doing any remastering yet. At this point, most things will look better than the official releases. LFL won't be able to stand that for long, and we'll get a great DVD release of the OOT. I hope.

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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
But remember, Lucas isn't doing any remastering, so the X0 project probably WILL end up looking better than the official releases.

I don't know about that- even though the XO is one of the best LD players ever made (along with the X9), they're still using laserdiscs as source material - whereas Fox is using the laserdisc masters which undoubtedly are of higher quality than the actual LDs.

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Originally posted by: RickWJ324
I believe I've seen most of the ones that are out there. They range from very BAD quality to very GOOD quality. As I stated in my last post, there have been some that have done amazing work, considering the source material they work with. However, I don't feel that any of them are as good as what Fox will be releasing. Could Fox release a better set than what they are releasing? YES. But I have to believe that their STUDIO PRODUCED dvd is going to be way beyond what we've seen from the fan-made dvd's. How could they not?! They are working with far better sources and FAR SUPERIOR equipment than any of us could hope to use (including the top-of-the-line X0 LD player). I don't say this to knock the X0 project or any other LD transferred dvd, I'm just stating the truth.

I've bought 2 laserdisc players over the last few years (including a top notch Pioneer CLD-97 player) and also have bought no less than 4 copies of the laserdiscs (including a FACTORY SEALED copy of the DEFINITIVE COLLECTION). I've made what I consider to be excellent dvd's and most of my friends and family think they are great. However, there's no way it could compare to what FOX is releasing!

Again, I'm just as disappointed as everyone else on this board that they are not ANAMORPHIC, however I'm not going to fool myself into thinking that I'm not buying these dvd's. I'm sure the money hungry Lucas (or FOX without Lucas being behind them) will release these films again. Probably anamorphic, probably BluRay/HD-DVD, and probably whatever format lies beyond that. In the meantime, I'm going to thoroughly enjoy these films when they are released in September! And so will most of you!!

--RickWJ324

Thanks for the info. I've also made my own DVDs from a set of factory-sealed "faces" LDs (using a Pioneer CLD-703 which I specifically bought for that purpose). I gave a set of DVDs to my nephew as well, and he was very pleased with them. However.....I will also be buying the 9/12 Fox DVDs, and I'm fairly certain they will blow my homemade DVDs away- even though the Fox DVDs won't be anamorphic.

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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
But remember, Lucas isn't doing any remastering, so the X0 project probably WILL end up looking better than the official releases.

I don't know about that- even though the XO is one of the best LD players ever made (along with the X9), they're still using laserdiscs as source material - whereas Fox is using the laserdisc masters which undoubtedly are of higher quality than the actual LDs.



I am gonna gamble that the XO is gonna be better, Im not paying full whack for DVDs I have(the 2004) and a bonus non ano laser transfer which is slightly better than my fan preserved sets which I am happy with, they are charging more or less full price online here in the UK and if I import from the US I will have to pay custom charges as they are over a certain amount, and I have better things than these to spend my money on, the only way is if they are reduced in a sale
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
But remember, Lucas isn't doing any remastering, so the X0 project probably WILL end up looking better than the official releases.


Even if there is NO remastering involved in the Fox DVD's, you have to take into account the source material they are using as opposed to the X0 project's sources. Fox has the MASTER source that the laserdiscs were made from. At the time the laserdiscs were made, LD technology was pretty much "top of the line". However, it is still a media that doesn't compare to the original masters (just like the VHS tapes don't come close to comparing to the original sources they are derived from).

So, you have Lucas/Fox making a dvd from the source material directly. Their equipment and source material is FAR superior to any "Laserdisc>Computer capture>Re-authoring>DVD" project that we can do. It's just a simple fact! Again, I'm not knocking the X0 Project or anyone else's project, I'm just stating the facts. So far, what I've seen from the X0 Team is AMAZING and I cannot compliment those guys enough for what they've shown us so far! And again, I hope I'm lucky enough to see their final product. I still can't see how the final product could look better than the source materials and the studio dvd authoring that Fox will give us.

I'm not defending Fox/Lucas for releasing these dvd's the way they are. Those that know me personally know that I'm always bashing Lucas (and have been since I left the theatre when Episode I was over). As ridiculous as I think his Prequel Movies, SE editions, and utter lack of respect for the OOT movies are, I still cannot wait to get these films on DVD. If this is all we end up getting on dvd, I'll at least be happy knowing that I finally have them on dvd. As stated before though, I don't think this is the last we'll see of these movies on DVD.

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As stated before though, I don't think this is the last we'll see of these movies on DVD.


A quote from George Lucas himself" "Now we'll find out where people really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved version. It will all come out in the end." Plus, this is George Lucas we're talking about here. The man seems to have a genetic inability to release only one version of his films. Remaster OOT discs with 5.1/2.0/mono=more money. I highly, highly, highly doubt that we won't see a high quality release of the films in the future, probably the near future with the 30th anniversary so close at hand. Then, maybe, one Lucas sees that there is a market for the version of his films which the majority of fans actually like, then maybe, at some point before the end of time, we can see a high-quality release of the original release of THX 1138 so that I can finally see the movie.

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Originally posted by: Mike O
As stated before though, I don't think this is the last we'll see of these movies on DVD.


A quote from George Lucas himself" "Now we'll find out where people really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved version. It will all come out in the end." Plus, this is George Lucas we're talking about here. The man seems to have a genetic inability to release only one version of his films. Remaster OOT discs with 5.1/2.0/mono=more money. I highly, highly, highly doubt that we won't see a high quality release of the films in the future, probably the near future with the 30th anniversary so close at hand. Then, maybe, one Lucas sees that there is a market for the version of his films which the majority of fans actually like, then maybe, at some point before the end of time, we can see a high-quality release of the original release of THX 1138 so that I can finally see the movie.

I agree- I've said before that this DVD release is a sign that he's starting to soften. Remember 1995- "ONE LAST TIME!" Well, that wasn't 100% true, now was it? I think eventually the OOT will be PROPERLY released- but probably not for the 30th anniversary. I'm betting it will get a blu-ray or hd-dvd release several years down the line, when one of the formats has caught on.

I think this September DVD release will be HUGE! It's going to blow Fox/Lucas away as to how many people still love and want the OOT. It will just give that much more reason for the OOT to be presented properly in a few years.

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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle

I am gonna gamble that the XO is gonna be better, Im not paying full whack for DVDs I have(the 2004) and a bonus non ano laser transfer which is slightly better than my fan preserved sets which I am happy with, they are charging more or less full price online here in the UK and if I import from the US I will have to pay custom charges as they are over a certain amount, and I have better things than these to spend my money on, the only way is if they are reduced in a sale
But remember, you can't create resolution where there is none. No amount of filtering or color correction is going to give those laserdiscs the same resolution that their masters have (even when played on an X0). I think the Sept. DVDs will be more than just "slightly" better than the fan-made DVDs.

Believe me, I understand. I spent $300 on an LD player I didn't need, God knows how much $ for the OOT THX laserdiscs and a couple weeks of my time, all so I could make my own OOT DVDs, because GL said they would NEVER be released on DVD. But regardless, my DVDs will pale in comparison to the 9/12 releases, and so will ALL the other LD-sourced fan-made DVDs out there.

Considering that these DVDs will be selling for about $20 each, that's a pretty good deal.

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My money's on the X0 Team. These guys know what they're doing, they're using cutting edge software and what's more they actually care about the Original Trilogy.

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Originally posted by: boba feta
My money's on the X0 Team. These guys know what they're doing, they're using cutting edge software and what's more they actually care about the Original Trilogy.


Here Here, couldn't agree more.....although the wait is killing me.....

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Originally posted by: boba feta
My money's on the X0 Team. These guys know what they're doing, they're using cutting edge software and what's more they actually care about the Original Trilogy.

I don't doubt for a minute that they know what they're doing, and I'm sure their results will be fantastic. All I'm saying though, is that the final product will still be limited by the fact that they're using laserdiscs as their source material, and there's no getting around that. No matter how much they care about the OT, the Fox discs will be of a higher resolution, simply because the source material they will be using is superior to what the X0 team has to work with.

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Perhaps, but resolution aint everything.

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