Originally posted by: jack Spencer Jr
You know, one of these days I should write up a breakdown of what I disliked and found weak in the PT and see just why the PT fans just don't see what I do. Or, I would but that would mean watching those movies again, so to heck with that. That's what bugs me. How can they like it so much when I find so many reasons to hate it. It's not creepy or nothing, it's perplexing and has skirted close to madness.

Yes, but they do see the flaws, although not as many as we do, but they don't care. What I did on TF.n was try to PM some of the more reasonable gushers, and try to get them to be honest, and I was suprised that they talk a good game of defending the PT on the threads, but when you get them 'off the record' they are alot different.

There is one guy on TF.n Cryogenic, who I had many conversations with through PM's, and he admitted to me that TPM isn't that good of a movie at all, and even admitted that AOTC wasn't much better, but he did like ROTS alot, and also agreed to me that SW & ESB were two best SW films. So I asked him why so much love for the PT in all your posts, it sounds like you love them as much as I love the OT?

His response was he was tired of bashers ruining everything, so he had to dig in the trenches and fight for the PT, and if he started really burying the movies, the vulchers would jump in and say, "I told you so!" So he was always positive in his love for this trilogy, in which he thought two of the movies were average. He constantly said he just liked the themes that Lucas used, and he thought OT fans were expecting too much from the PT. He always said, "Come on, they're just SW films, I am not expecting to be overwhelmed." He also admitted that Superman: The Movie was his favorite movie of all-time, not any of the 6 SW movies. I would counter and say how many heres favorite movie of all-time is one of the OT movies?

And that is the crux of my argument, alot of these supposed PT Gushers are not going to be like us 20 years from now, and still love those movies. I contend you don't love movies that you never loved 20 years later, you are bound to see the averageness of it, and move on in life.

We atleast saw it within a couple years after the release, but at one time I was a naive lover of the PT films, but deep down after every viewing I just knew they werent great movies, and something was missing. After ROTS, that is when I changed my stance on the PT, and in fairness to Lucas I gave the whole trilogy all the wiggle room, I waited for the whole story before rendering my verdict, that the movies are just not that great and dont really mesh with the OT. They have great moments, but man they have really bad ones too that just bring the movies down that only George Lucas is able to get away with from the SW fans.

Putting aside my thesis, I still think alot of PT fans are enamored by the action, the visuals, and the lightsaber fights, and I know they won't be fans 20 years from now because there will be something bigger and better than the PT.

I always ask why we still love and fight for the O-OT? It is the characters, the story, and the fact that in my opinion there are two classics in the trilogy, and one good movie for closure. That is why its passed the test of time for me.