I'm going to do something I never thought I'd do, but I'm going to debate against CO on this one. Don't take it personally, man. You know I think you're awesome.
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Please don't be afraid to take issue with my statements, unlike other websites I welcome someone who has a legitimate beef with me. Now if this were TF.n, I would be banned right now. Please anyone who disagrees, I am game, that is what this is all about, not to agree 100% of the time.
I am just saying that I think there is a difference in fans between the OT & PT mainstream fans as well. Sure there are OT fans that dress up for the movies, just as there are PT fans who do the same. I think that is just weird if you over the age of 10, but there are fans like that from every movie series, so I discount the real diehards on each side.
My whole point was, growing up many of my friends were OT fans, and none of us were huge scifi fans, we were not the typical demographic for SW. We just gravitated to the movies because it was a feel good story, had really likeable characters you can relate to, and of course the movie quality, especially SW & ESB were unmatched at the time.
The PT fans are different, they will admit only ROTS is the only great movie to them. They admit that there are flaws in every movie, and that Jar Jar goes too far, and that yes there are plot holes but that wont ruin the movie experience. I ask anyone here, if SW or ESB were like that, do you think we would be here? Would we all love 2 mediocre movies, and one pretty good one? So what makes the PT fans gravitate to the characters that we can't? I mean its the same damn world with the same themes, why can't any of us latch on give two shits about Anakin & Padme? The only character I remotely care about is Ewan McGregor, cause he is atleast the one good guy from the trilogy.
The PT fans have to love Anakin & Padmes character to love these movies. I made a thread on TF.n awhile back on first reactions to each PT movie, and everyone of them LOVED ROTS, but most thought TPM was alright, and it was half and half about AOTC. So only ROTS seems to be the prevailing crown jewel of the saga. Again would you love a trilogy of just one great movie?
So they say they can't believe Anakin would kill younglings, they can't believe he choked Padme, but they still like him? I was rooting for Kenobi the whole Mustafar battle, and once he cut Anakins legs & arms off, I was saying Thank God! I didn't root for Anakin once in the PT, he was never likeable, and he was designed that way by Lucas, and for some reason that appeals to many PT fans.
Now Padme, how can you respect anyone who loses the will to live after having two kids? I laugh at that scene, thinking, "No mother would do this? Who is writing this shit?" But PT fans rationalize, that she did it for Anakin, she was so torn up inside that her love did that to her. Newsflash: Any parent knows that kids are more important than anything in the world, and she deserted TWO of them is not believable, unless your mentally ill.
We talk about quality of the PT films, and this nitpick and that nitpick. But the bottom line is I never gave a rats ass about the two leads in the movies: Anakin & Padme, that is why I didn't love the movies. But there are alot of these people that had to gravitate to these characters the same way we did to Luke, Leia, and Han Solo. Unfortunately they are like night and day, and I don't find anything redeeming of either of them.