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Can we get other directors in on the crusade?

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Two that come to mind as being ones to support our cause would be Ridley Scott and James Cameron. Both have put out special editions of their movies while at the same time preserving the original work. If Lucas won't listen to us, he'll listen to his peers. I just picked up the Legend: Ultimate Edition the other day and even though the original theatrical release was much inferior to the Director's Cut, and Ridley Scott expressed a lot of regret that the original film came out the way it did, he still made sure that the DVD set included the original release. James Cameron has also treated the original release of the Abyss with the same respect, even though it was also marred by having huge parts of the story cut out (to the point that the aliens' final message to Ed Harris makes NO sense in the original film, but almost brings a tear to your eye in the Director's Cut once you see it in the correct context). Maybe we can get these guys on our side and try to talk some sense into Lucas. It is like John Lasseter said in the 60 minutes story about Pixar the other night, when a director releases a movie it is like a parent letting their children grow up and leave the nest - even though you made them what they are, once they leave home they're no longer entirely yours anymore. They belong to everyone who loves them.
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James Cameron would be the ideal of those two because he is the rare director who, according to others on this forum, actually did not want this footage spliced back in to his films (even the "heartwarming" scene between the NTIs and Virgil).

It would have been wonderful to get Spielberg on board especially considering their close relationship and the fact that Spielberg did release both versions of ET on DVD. But I think this is a pipedream.
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It is like John Lasseter said in the 60 minutes story about Pixar the other night, when a director releases a movie it is like a parent letting their children grow up and leave the nest - even though you made them what they are, once they leave home they're no longer entirely yours anymore. They belong to everyone who loves them.

Amen to that! This is exactly the point we are trying to get LFL to understand!

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Francis Ford Coppolla? Great wine.
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If Francis can persuade GL to cast Sofia in a minor role in TPM, getting him to listen to us should be no problem. Of course, there's that whole Apocalypse Now: Redux thing...

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Who was Sofia in TPM?
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She was one of Padme's handmaidens. Check the credit crawl @ the end.

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So it was her and Keira Knightley?
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Among others.

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It's been so damned long since I've seen TPM that I don't even remember how many handmaidens there were.
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too bad akira kurosawa is dead (RIP), he couldve made lucas listen.
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Too true.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
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Yeah, Kurosawa is one of the last people you'd see revising his films.

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Especially now that he's dead.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
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Even before that.

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I know. Just funnin' ya.
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But of course. I'm having a hard time coming up with other filmmakers that would have any impact on GL. The only one I can think of is Philip Kaufman.

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Why Kaufman?
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Kaufman is an old film school friend who cares more for film artistry than box office. If Kaufman could convince GL that he is actually destroying his films in his efforts to "improve" them, we might make some headway. BTW, don't forget that Kaufman collaborated w/ GL on the story for ROTLA. He is a trusted associate.

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And now the question is, how do we contact Kaufman to plead our case?
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
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Find out what his next project is, or see if he has a fansite.

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i also mentioned akira kurosawa because GL repeatedly expressed his immense respect and admiration for his films.
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Okay, Gundark is in charge of contacting Kaufman and Motti will get a hold of Kurosawa
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
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So... when's the seance, motti?

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Han Solo: I'm a nice man.