Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
There's a lot of people, myself included, who still see ROTJ as inferior to it's 2 predecessors. The stuff with Luke, Vader and the Emperor is good, but it was definitely starting to go pear-shaped by the 3rd movie. It just wasn't as noticable as in the Prequels, which sucked AND blowed at the same time.
There's a lot of people, myself included, who still see ROTJ as inferior to it's 2 predecessors. The stuff with Luke, Vader and the Emperor is good, but it was definitely starting to go pear-shaped by the 3rd movie. It just wasn't as noticable as in the Prequels, which sucked AND blowed at the same time.
Exactly!
Even 10 years ago, I thought ROTJ was the worst of the OT, and it is the only one I didn't see in the theaters in 1997. But as a trilogy, with two classics, I still can watch this just as much cause I care about Luke, Leia, and Han and the movie gives me a sense of closure on a great trilogy. But there is two ways of looking at ROTJ:
1. As just a sequel to a classic original, it is a very good movie, not great, but not in the league of shitsville as Rocky V, Jaws 3-D, Superman III-IV, and Jurassic Park III. Those movies truly suck, and when compared to them, it is an enjoyable sequel.
2. When compared to SW & ESB, it is totally inferior, and now looked upon as the weak link of the trilogy that defied the odds with the first sequel being as great as the first classic original.
What the Prequels did to ROTJ for me was open up that it could have been alot worse. The one thing ROTJ gets right is the Vader/Emperor/Luke scenes in the last half hour. Those scenes are just as good as anything from SW & ESB, and really are the glue that hold this movie together.
Now look at the Prequels, and how Lucas dropped the ball on major scenes in each movie: An annoying Jar Jar rumbles his way for 2 hours of TPM to ruin every scene. A 10 year old boy who story is so uncompelling, and now the movie is looked upon as an EU novel. The reason for AOTC is to show Padme/Anakin fall in love, does anyone, even PT gushers think these scenes were well done? And finally in ROTS, The turn scene in which we all waited for is so fast and so illogical, and makes Anakin look like one big dummy cause of one 5 minute sidebar story Palpatine tells him. And then Padme losing the will to live.......
Lucas dropped the ball on BIG scenes in the PT, and that is why it is so jarring when watching them. ROTJ atleast gets the big scenes right. And even thought the Death Star is recycled, it is still a great space battle and you do root for Lando to come out alive. Just think of Hayden Christenson trying to blow up the death star, I would have rooted for the Empire!