logo Sign In

Should Lucus make 4,5 and 6 over? — Page 3

Author
Time
Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes
I definitely don't want the originals replaced, but I think it would be fairly interesting to see how different these movies would be if they were made today.


I think the prequel trilogy gives us a pretty good idea of what they'd be like.
Author
Time
Originally posted by: darkhelmet
A bolder cinematic attempt would have been to shoot the PT to match the look of the Original Trilogy, from art direction to writing to editing to directing. Can you imagine if he had deliberately casted and designed the PT to look like films shot in the '70s and '80s? (and spent more time and effort on sculpting a Yoda puppet that actually resembled the OT Yoda? but i digress.)
Yes, I've said this before - how cool would it be if the prequels were purposely retro? I'm sure he would get a lot of respect for going against current trends.

War does not make one great.

Author
Time
Yeah, YIYF, I'm with you on this! I don't think Lucas really cared about the art of filmmaking while doing the prequels.

Seemed more like a bid for more acclaim from pioneering film technology and an extended demo reel to show the industry what ILM could do for other Hollywood filmmakers.
Author
Time
Originally posted by: darkhelmet Yeah, YIYF, I'm with you on this! I don't think Lucas really cared about the art of filmmaking while doing the prequels.

Seemed more like a bid for more acclaim from pioneering film technology and an extended demo reel to show the industry what ILM could do for other Hollywood filmmakers.


Exactly. That’s where George went wrong with the PT and where he has gone wrong with the SE. He has added elements to showcase ILM CG prowess with little regard for necessity or plausibility. Why was Jabba added to the SE version of Star Wars when the data he related was repetitive? Was there any essential element conveyed by Vader’s shuttle scene in the SE version of ESB? Is Jar Jar really essential to the story of the PT in general and TPM in particular? What is the purpose of the “buzz droids” in ROTS? The sad truth is that all of these issues could have been avoided all together, but George needed to show the film industry that ILM was still #1 in CG. Weta Digital and Sony Pictures Imageworks maintained pressure on George throughout the PT so excessive CG was a given for those films.

I think it is better to ask should the PT have been written with an eye towards the OT.

I always thought Ben was going to be a rebel in the PT. You know a real bad ass, borderline anti-hero, someone that was reckless (as he claimed to be in ESB) and rebellious. I did get such a character in TPM, but his name was Qui-Gon.

I also though Ben “took it upon himself” to train Anakin. As far as I can see he considered Anakin a “pathetic life form” and a “dangerous” distraction. I left TPM thinking that Obi-Wan had been guilted into training Anakin by Qui-Gon’s dying wish.

These are just two minor issues that the PT raised. There are much deeper elements (midi’s, the turn, Anakin/Padme) that could be discussed.

In the end I think the OOT is fine just the way it is.


"Look, going good against bashers/gushers is one thing. Going good against the living? That's something else."
- Darth-Adroit

“I also thought George could be turned back to the good side. It couldn't be done. He is more CGI now than story. Twisted and evil.”
- Darth-Adroit
Author
Time
Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

Remaking classics is a horrible, horrible idea. Gone with the Wind, Wizard of Oz, Casablanca. Could you imagine those...remade? (And I don't meen "blackification" that was done with "The Wiz" or Family Guy' "Black to the Future." That is just plain sacrilige.)


I love The Wiz
Author
Time
If it'll stop him tinkering with the originals then yes he should.
Some were not blessed with brains.
<blockquote>Originally posted by: BadAssKeith

You are passing up on a great opportunity to makes lots of money,
make Lucas lose a lot of his money
and make him look bad to the entire world
and you could be well known and liked

None of us here like Lucas or Lucasfilm.
I have death wishes on Lucas and Macullum.
we could all probably get 10s of thousands of dollars!
Author
Time
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Think of Yoda from The Empire Strikes Back. Think of the Emperor from Return of the Jedi. I know I'm not the only person who thinks that fighting with lightsabers is just beneath them, plain and simple. Yoda is the mentor. He lifts X-Wings from the swamp and gives philsophical discussions on the Force. He prepares Luke for his battles. Palpatine is the instigator. He watches with glee from the comfort of his chair as his lackeys go at each other with colored blades. When he needs to exert his authority, he stands up and fries people with lightning bolts without so much as breaking a sweat. And when both of them are done, they simply pick up their canes and hobble away. Giving them lightsabers in the prequels weakened them so much by forcing them to fight on the same level as the main characters.

I thought the same thing when I saw II and III. I had always thought of the Emperor and Yoda as wise sages who were so powerful in the Force didn't need to physically exert themselves. By deigning to use Lightsabers like every other Jedi, they are cheapened.

I wouldn't really be satisfied with an explanation that Yoda and Palpatine are far younger in the Prequels, and perhaps not as powerful as they seemed in the Original Trilogy.

I can understand why Palpatine dueled Mace and his lackeys - it was the final part of his plan to turn Anakin. But Yoda Vs Palpatine made a lot more sense as a Force battle, after they were done playing with the sabers.
Author
Time
Originally posted by: Invader JennyRemaking classics is a horrible, horrible idea. Gone with the Wind, Wizard of Oz, Casablanca. Could you imagine those...remade?


Well, technically, Gone with the Wind and Wizard of Oz are both based on books, so I *could* see them being reinterpreted. I thought remaking Planet of the Apes was a good idea, because they could have been more based on the original material. But of course, being a Tim Burton movie, that wasn't going to happen. (Yes, we need a "Oh woe is me. I'm all alone. Nobody loves me." character in all of his movies (including Mars Attacks). But I digress...)