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Originally posted by: catofong
hey I just figured why not cut the ewoks completely and have the death star be orbiting corsacant.
after all there going to asassnate palpatine right.

there you could use shots of the imperial city from Revemge of the sith as stock footage.
and clean up the end cellbration footage by removing the endor trees and by compositing in our heros luke, leia ,han, lando etc
into to a new enviorment such as nabbo and have luke and leia visit there mothers grave.
than the force ghosts appear.
a force ghost anikian it is the old force ghost than he morphs into the younger hayden one then a force ghost padme appears at his side.
than yoda and obiwan.
will this work

thanx

catofong


I think the celebration on Endor is good. I mean I know these edits are to make the saga work better but the celebration on Endor is perfect the way it is. Now if we oculd get the force ghosts to morph into there younger self and maybe get Guigon-Jin ( I totally spelt his name wrong didn't I lol) in it that would be great. And Having DSII in ESB by Mustafar would be a good idea. But I just pray that we could get in a Specail Effect artist.

PLEASE IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYONE WHO IS GOOD AT THIS KINDA STUFF PLEASE TALK WITH THEM!!!


EDIT: I sent out a request in another forum I'm apart of if anyone is good at Special Effects, now I jsut to wait to see if I get any relpies....
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Hello all. Long-time reader of the site, but a rare poster. First, I have to say that this particular thread is a real treat to follow. If half of the good ideas posted here are utilized in the final release of this fan project, the saga will could much improved. The whole idea of the DS2 in ESB—love it!

Anyway, the idea of making Padme’s hand move slightly (mentioned earlier in this thread, I think) to indicate that her death was faked, really got my mind going. I mean really, really got it churning. So, here’s my “light up a room and leave” mega-post:

ROTS:
Padme gives birth to Luke. Yoda instructs Obi-Wan to leave immediately, take Luke & hide him on Tatooine with Owen & Beru. Because of this, Obi-Wan does not know of Leia’s birth. Why does Yoda do this? Perhaps he sees a glimpse of the future through the Force. Perhaps after Obi-Wan’s failure to properly train and keep Anakin on a short leash, Yoda wants to hedge his bets. Padme does not die. The rest of Yoda’s plan? Her death is faked. As shown in the film, she appears to still be pregnant during her staged funeral.

Bail Organa makes the offer to take Leia and raise her in his home on Alderaan. However, he also offers to let Padme secretly live there, too. So, she again uses a tactic shown in Phantom Menace: she assumes the role of a servant, perhaps even as the baby’s nanny. I always thought the whole decoy thing was a great idea, but wasted on tricking the likes of the Nomedians and Boss Nass. This time though, she fades into the background, not only for her own safety, but for her daughter’s, too. This is an interesting parallel with Anakin continuing his life by assuming a new identity. Both are doomed to spending their remaining years not as themselves, but cloaked in another identity. It also brings Padme’s storyline in the PT full circle: her character would last be seen the same way we were introduced to her, disguised herself to protect her true identity. Bail would arrive on Alderaan to see his wife, baby in hand, and new house servant following behind. As Leia grows up, Bail, and Padme (as her station permits), groom her to become a leader of the Rebellion.

Putting aside how this could be conveyed with the existing footage and any available dialog, how does this benefit the saga, and more to the point, how does this help with the bits from the original trilogy that are contradicted by GL’s stupid plotting of the prequels?

ANH:
Ben’s non-reaction to seeing Bail Organa’s “daughter” in a hologram is puzzling to me, since according to events shown in ROTS, he should deduce that this is a grown-up Leia he is seeing for the first time. So, if he doesn’t know who she really is, her true parental background etc. (as my suggestions would fix), his non-reaction would make more sense as portrayed in ANH…

Next: for anyone thinking including a shot of Bail on Alderaan just before the Death Star destroys it…consider that with my above-outlined changes, the audience would know that Leia is viewing her mother’s murder on the DS viewscreen when Alderaan explodes. And Vader would unknowingly be watching his wife’s death as well. So, a shot of both Bail Organa and Padme (in servant clothing), then poof—no more Alderaan. Instead of some vague loss of a population the audience has never seen (except for Bail), there is a real sense of loss, sadder still that Leia with her father (!) standing right beside her, watch Alderaan’s destruction and along with it, their wife/mother’s true death…

Ben’s feeling of millions of voices crying out? Well, perhaps through the Force he heard one voice in particular more than the others: Padme’s. I thought the prequels hinted at Obi-Wan’s feelings toward her, though his code and duty would never let him act on them. This puts his wave of grief on a more personal level…

ESB:
As Luke leaves Dagobah, Ben comments, “That boy is our last hope.” Yet ROTS (as it is now) establishes that he knows of Leia’s existence! My above scenario fixes this, as Obi-Wan would truly believe that Luke was the last hope. So, when Yoda says, “No, there is another,” we can assume that (sometime between ESB & ROTJ) he finally lets Obi-Wan in on Leia’s existence and significance.

ROTJ:
And now for the things that this fixes the best, at least in my mind…

Frist: Ben’s chunk of exposition to Luke on Dagobah which includes, “that is why your sister has remained safely anonymous.” I always thought the inflection Alec G. put on “anonymous” was a curious choice, and if Yoda kept her existence a secret even from Obi-Wan (until revealed off-screen in ESB) the line reading would make more sense. It also ups the drama: if Leia is important enough that Yoda keeps her existence even from Obi-Wan, then when Vader later learns of her by reading Luke’s thoughts on DS2, it makes the stakes seem even greater…

Secondly, something I think we can all agree on: GL really screwed the pooch by the way he handled the scenes of Luke and Leia’s birth, then Padme dying soon afterward. This makes Leia’s lines “Just a little bit. Feelings really. She was very beautiful, but sad,” just not match up with what was shown in ROTS.

While Bail may have told Leia that her biological mother died when she was very young, perhaps Leia sensed something through the Force. Something that as a child she couldn’t completely make sense of… like a dream with details that almost fall into place, but not quite. Leia would never know that she actually felt her mother’s presence closer than she could ever imagine—a very beautiful but sad nanny, raising her, educating her, but never revealing the truth about her identity, though the Force would give hints that Leia couldn’t quite unravel. This would make true the statement that Luke has “no memory of my mother. I never knew her,” as Obi-Wan immediately left, taking baby Luke to Tatooine.


My suggestions may positively affect other plot points I haven’t considered, and may screw up others I also haven’t thought of. I think it makes Padme’s character arc more bittersweet, instead of the lazy writing of just killing her off. Having to finish her life in the shadows, helping to further the Rebellion in small ways through Bail and Leia, before dying anonymously on Alderaan by the actions of he estranged husband, while her daughter looks on…that just seems better to me than dying of a “broken heart.”

Lastly, and this is just rambling… but if Ben & Luke had been a little speedier getting to Mos Eisley, not gotten into a bar brawl, haggled a little less when selling Luke’s landspeeder, etc., they might have actually made it to Alderaan. Meaning that they could have met Bail and at least seen an older Padme. Luke potentially could have met his mother. Of course, the Death Star plans, R2, Ben, Luke and everything else on the planet would have been destroyed when the DS showed up, but still…

Okay, is any of this appealing? An improvement? Is any of it possible?
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this could be possible through redone crawls and somehow making Padme's hand twitch during the funeral and somehow getting Obi-wan away from the birthing

EDIT:
I was thinking, why don't we ask OCPMovie if he would help with the special effects shots. Because most of the shots would just matte painting planet, DS II, or ships into certian places and he did tons of that with the classic edition. So I really think that you guys should ask him.

And second I think that you guys should now start pre-editing for episode I, IV, V, VI. Write down ever thing that needs edited, subtitled, color changed, music cues, rotoscoped, people matte painted in to backrounds, which deleted scenes should be added back in( for episode 1), re-write all of the crawls etc.. for each movie. And definately edit around the music like Trooperman cuz his edits for episode 2 and 3 will be apart of the Ranch so they need to be similar.

That way you guys can now start lifting this project off of ideas and on to the edits . I really wish i knew how to edit to help this project though.
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I just haven't had time to read all of the comments in the last few days, but I wanted to say this:

Commander Courage,

The idea of the Emperor/Vader discussion at the end of ANH seems weird. I guess it breaks up the "Golly! We won" feeling at the end of ANH. Not to beat a dead horse here, but if you go with my idea of having the DS partially blown up in ANH, then we're already taking away some of the feel-good ending, so using the emperor in ANH might not be so bad.

BTW, I love this thread

Erik

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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But how do you "partially" blow up the Death Star?

Why don't you re-edit the movie so there's only one death star the whole time? The Death Star 2 battle could be their first try, from a base on Hoth, while it's still being built, but the Death Star's ground assault pushes them out, and the Millenium Falcon escapes into the Asteroid field, and ESB as per the original film. Then they have to go to Endor to destroy the shield generator after being rescued from Jabba the Hutt and the fleet attacks the completed Death Star while Luke dukes it out with Vader inside...or on Couruscant or wherever...It ruins the idea that Luke blows up the Death Star, but it does kinda fix that admitadley pretty lame premise of there being a SECOND Death Star built. Of course ROTJ was a really cool movie, but I mean come on you know? "Ooops, if at first you don't succeed Vader!!! Try and try again!"

I dunno, another idea

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It would be great if there was no second death star at all. Ackbar says "for the first time, we have prior knowledge of the emperor's location". (he's like Sadaam Hussein, never sleeps in the same place two nights in a row). "We're going to the heart of the empire, to this particular tower, and we're gonna kill him. The Endor shield protects Coruscant (instead of death star), we have to take it out." Of course the Emperor is setting a trap, with himself as the bait. The throne room scene would need coruscant outside the windows, but if it's raining and nighttime, you don't need to see too much. When Luke is watching outside the windows, instead of seeing the battle, he's seeing hordes of tie fighters roll off an assembly line to meet the fleet. It's pretty impossible to do now, but someday...
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well I thought that the idea of including Coruscant into ROTJ but still have the duel on the DS the most possible with what we have open to use.
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phraseturner,

Nice ideas, but short of re-shooting, I don't know how these suggestions could be accomplished. I guess we'll have to write it off as another lost opportunity of the PT.

I think the hand twitch thing is doable and has poential, but it kind of leaves the audience hanging, wondering what happened to Padme.


Darth Richard,

That's a good idea to ask OCPMovie for VFX help. Does he come around here anymore?

I also think we should start to write all of these changes down to all the movies, to know what we're doing.


PaulisDead2221,

The DS can be partially blown up, if just one half of it blows up. It's a big explosion, but it only destroys half the superstructure. The Empire later comes along to salvage what's left and rebuild it. That's what we could see happening at the beginning of ESB. Kind of like fixing a car that's been totalled.

I think you're suggesting that we end ANH after the rebels escape from the DS. The problem with that is: why didn't the Empire just send the DS to blow up Hoth. In order for ESB to happen the way it does, the DS needs to be "taken out" in some way.


Guy Caballero,

Taking the DS/DS II out of ROTJ is interesting, but we run into the same problem of having to put Coruscant into all those windows. Also, what will the rebel fighters do once Han does get the shield down? What are they attacking? Are they trying to take out a portion of the capitol city (with all its innocent inhabitants) to kill Palpatine? That seems a little too heartless to me.


Commander Courage,

Did InfoDroid ever get anyone to record Niemodian voices for TPM? I was wondering why we wouldn't want someone to record some jibberish that sounds like the Duros from the cantina.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Erik I think the best thing to do with ROTJ is have Coruscant there and stuff but still have the duel in the DSII, have the first Death Star explode and have the Vader Emperor talk at the end of ANH. And yes OCPmovie still comes around now, and I don't think he is doing any 'projects' right now so you should prbably send him a PM. And if there is a way to maybe have the DSII at Mustafar in the begining of ESB then we might be able to pull off having the DS partially explode in ANH and jsut have 1 throughout the whole trilogy. Because if it is at Mustafar then it is to far away from Hoth and plus a partial DS won't be able to blow up Hoth anyways. O and from the Planet montage is there anyway to get Mustafar, Utopia, and KKyashck in there.
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I wasn't thinking they should attack a whole city and kill innocents, I was thinking that when the shield goes down, It becomes a battle over Coruscant, like in episode 3, and a small group slips through to get Palpatine. Except instead of Anakin and ObiWan trying to rescue him, it's Lando and Wedge trying to kill him. Their target is some Imperial compound. They fly in and around an industrial part of town to get there so you could keep most of the existing shots. Anyway, just babbling. Carry on!
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Everybody also needs to realize that a partially exploding death star sequence would be incredibly difficult to create without having alot of money spent on the special effects. That is something that cannot be pulled off in a "professional movie" fashion with domestic computer software. Even if we had someone to do that, it is going to take a long time to create that whole sequence considering you cannot use any raw footage of the actually death star explosions.

Plus, personally speaking I feel that the idea of a partially destroyed death star that still hangs around is not any better than the idea of a second , more powerful, one being built through the film timeline. Like people have stated before, if the death star in ANH only has it's ass blown off at the bottom, then there is no celebration at the end, the empire is just going to finish up some damage, and to me would feel very anticlimatic. This needs to represent the first major defeat of the empire of the war with the rebels. Since episode III we will see the empire taking over, all the jedi dying, the galaxy has lost their republic rights, haha the set designs and spaceships are turning to crap and the death star is a new super weapon that would only spell immediate doom for the rebellion to succeed. However, the destruction of the first DS makes it like the galaxy has some hope (A New Hope) and that the rebellion will continue fighting with their new rush of victory. Everybody new , even when ANH originally came out, that they didn't destroy the entire empire, or that all the bad guys were now defeated and it's celebration all over the galaxy. So there is nothing wrong at all with blowing it up entirely and creating the "second DS" out of ESB.

After the DS 1 explodes, following that with the emp/vader chat from ESB is the best way to keep a "saga" flow to the plot and retain the idea of the original. I feel this is a great idea anyway because this specific chat with vader/palps doesn't feel right in the spot it is in for ESB. WHy would they now be talking about Luke and the death star? ALl this time later, it's obvious to the audience already. Then the emperor would be missing from ESB, which is a good idea. Considering that there are no plot movements that specifically involve palps you can't even notice he isn't there. There are focused plots on almost every character and makes a better build for his appearnce in ROTJ.

The very last shot of ESB would include lukes line from ROTJ "I'll meet you back at the fleet.............I have a promise to keep, for an old friend".........then ESB ends. ROTJ could open with Luke on Dagobah (using the planetary view from the ROTS deleted scene of yoda flying to dagobah) and ending with the line from obiwan "they do you credit, but may be used to serve the emperor".....then we swipe to the Emperor arriving on DS II and the first appearnce from vader for the movie. CC has laid out MANY different oppurtunitys of sequencing for the first half of ROTJ. They are all so good that i'm hoping we'll have time to do every version and decide the best flow from the mix.

As far as how mustafar could blend in with the OT movies. I understand that it could be useful considering that the DS 1 was shown being constructed next to the planet in ep.III. This doesn't mean that we have to include Mustafar in the movies however, and if it was to be anywhere then perhaps at the alternate ESB opening of the DSII we could see the planet mustafar in the corner. However I think it would be better to introduce the planet Endor while we're at it. Plus endor is the planet operating the deflector shields , which seems so important a mission to destroy in ROTJ. But i'm just not sure that this idea of changing the Luke/emp/vader scenes to coruscant can be seamless at all. Not only are you guys talking about repainting the windows to include a nighttime coruscant, but you would also have to create several shots of this building they are in (areal like shots to we can understand where they are, like the tower shots on DS II), plus you'll need shots of the different ships approaching and landing through the orbit of the planet and into the city. Once again we're not talking small effects, we're talking huge CGI and/or models. It is a fansastic "idea" , but there is really no way we are going to get that kind of f/x work on these edits............we havn't even had any volunteers to help us rotoscope lightsabers yet.

As far as writing down the ideas to all the movies that we are set in stone on..........that is a good idea, a very ambitions idea but a good one. This chat has been going on for soo long that I myself have forgotten a few directions to which we're going. Considering that we are still planning to edit Episode one first (am I right CC?) then we will need to discuss a few things in particular that have altered our original intentions of the edit. I don't mean to get off topic of ROTJ alterations, however here are thing things that CC laid out a few pages ago, but we havn't really had a good discussion on how to fix these problems, or how it will effect the overall plot if they cannot be fixed..

Commander Courage wrote:
Due to various constraints, we've had to cut a couple of plot points we were hoping to change: Qui-Gon talking to Anakin through the Force, and Nute going back to the control ship and dying in the explosion. There are simply no quiet shots of Anakin in the cockpit which could be used for him listening to Qui-Gon. He's always talking or looking around very fast. A "flying back to Naboo" shot also proved nearly impossible to create, and that would also be necessary for the Force-talk. Maybe in the inevitable Special Edition we can work out a way to accomplish that, but for nw unfortunately it's a no-go. Also, the killing of Nute required a couple of SFX shots that could have been completed, but we could never resolve Padme's plot line to our satisfaction. Ideally there would be a shot of her and her group entering an empty throne room and a line "We're too late. They're gone," but it just doesn't exist. Without some kind of major reworking of the Padme/Nute throneroom scene, which is beyond our ability, this would end Padme's plotline at "Put down your weapons. They win this round." That's just not a satisfactory conclusion. So Nute will live an be captured as per the original version (which will make subtle things in II and III work much better).

Going back to the alien dialogue, InfoDroid had planned to use voice actors. I suppose we could still go this route, but personally I think we'd be much safer using a foriegn language track. Japanese would be the preferable language, as it's almost unrecognizeable. That would work for the Nemoidians anyway. The Gungans are a huge dilemma, any thoughts on them would be welcome. The idea behind using a foriegn language track and not dialogue from say, "The Passion of the Christ" (which I thought worked great in the clips ID posted), is that we could use proper nouns like "Jedi," "Sith," "Amidala," etc. This is also possible of course with voice actors, but again, I'm hesitant to use fan voices. Grievous/Maul being the only exception, and yes, that IS happening in this edit. He has only two lines in this Episode I, both coming in the hologram report scene.

As for special effects shots that are necessary:
-Possible new opening shot, something other than a pan down to the Republic cruiser (suggestions welcome).
-Grievous's Shuttle from Episode III, serving as Nute's shuttle here, approaching Theed. This will serve as a transition to Nute and Rune departing the shuttle (which has been moved to later in the movie).
-I'd LOVE to have to shot of the Royal Starship IN hyperspace. I'm not sure if this can be accomplished (suggestions welcome).
-The Royal Starship approaching Tatooine. An example of this shot can be seen in a screenshot posted by TJ. This utilizes the first shot of ANH flipped upside down, though I think it best if the moons were painted out so it's not instantly recognizeable as been cut-and-paste from ANH.
-Grievous/Maul talking to the Nemoidians via hologram. G/M would be sitting in the chair, matted over Sidious, with his original hologram painted out. TJ completed an early test of this which looked promising and was very effective.


And Info Droid and TJ never have contacted us past the moment they made their departure known, so we're still left with alot of material to gather or find on our own. But everyone is coming up with very good ideas and the brainstorming is getting better. If anyone has any suggestion on the points listed above, now would be a good time to suggest.
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My input on what you posted.


Have the DS be destoryed in ANH and have Vader talk with the Emperor.

No Mustafar in ESB have Endor

Put Coruscant in ROTJ, but Endor be the moon

Have the duel be on the DSII this is the only way it will work (unless if GL does something radical for the inevitable Archival Editions)

And for Episode one cut those plot line and undoable vfx shots

And definately use foriegn language tracks for aliens, such as Japanesse movies, Passion of the Chirst, and maybe use Russian or German reversed for the Gungans, and for the pronouns issue I wouldn't worry about it cuz most languages have there own pronouns for words like that.
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I like the idea of the whole finale of ROTJ being an assasination, and a second death star is pretty lame. Maybe you could have the final Vader/Emperor/Luke battle in a windowless room to eliminate the need to composite coruscant outside. As somebody has already said, watching a space battle miles overhead from a window in a room in a city is impossible anyway. Perhaps the Emperor could help Luke to watch the battle via the force (implanting images/allowing Luke to 'see' through him). How the hell you would make it clear what is happening is beyond me though - Just throwing some ideas out.

War does not make one great.

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Yoda is my Father, yes but this is no ordinary city. And the Emperor's tower is no ordinary tower. It reaches up into the lower atmosphere. Plus, if that part of the city is at night, you could use some of those night shots on Coruscant that adorn all three PT movies.

Erikstormtrooper
Also, what will the rebel fighters do once Han does get the shield down? What are they attacking?

The Death Star.

Here's what I'm saying:

You move the location of both Endor and the DS to the Galactic Core. Make Endor a moon of Coruscant. Have the shield protecting the DS just like ROTJ does. So, the rebels would be going to destroy the DS in the heart of the Empire in a desperate attempt to end the war once and for all.

This could make for a great crawl.

Something like: in a desperate attempt to end the war once and for all, the rebels gather all available ships and troops for an assualt into the heart of the empire, where the death star, and the emperor, lye in wait.
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I agree with everything Darth Richard said, except for reversing the language tracks. You can always tell when audio has been reversed, and I think it will be distracting. Can we take a japanese track for the Niemodians and modulate it (or whatever) to sound like the Duros in the cantina? I think that would provide a nice bit of (small) continuity.

The only weak spot here is the opening of ROTJ. Panning down on a planet just seems very boring. Although the Obi-Wan line on Dagobah leads nicely to the Emperor's arrival, I'd like to see the emperor's arrival be the opening scene. It's just a bigger opening, and I think it really sets the movie in motion. Maybe reverse the Star Destroyer shot so it's not exactly the same as in ESB.

Shanep, I think you and I are saying the same thing. My comment was directed toward Guy Caballero.

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Good points eric, however as far as "big openings"...........Episode II showed 3 ships flying slowly and flipping around into the coruscant atmosphere, not very exciting at all. And in ESB (originally) they open with a star destroyer popping out a couple of probes, once again not as exciting as the blockade runner being blasted or the battle of coruscant. We're also going to try and add vaders arrival on DS II to the beginning of ESB. Therefore it would be redundant to have both movies start off on the exact same situation. Panning to dagobah is to set the mood of the movie and connect the audience with the fact that luke has been training for the "in between" time and is probaby now a formidable jedi. It will be easier to see him run off and face Jabba and his goons to get han solo back and gives a better introduction to Luke in general , as opposed to being a hologram from R2 (which is cool too). But it's still open for discussion...
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Does anyone else think the Leia meets Wicket scene in ROTJ is long and kills the latter scene of the ewoks capturing the heroes?
Once we know Wicket is friendly, the other ewoks that Han,Luke, etc encounter are less-threatening. Also, it tells us where Leia is before we see her.

What if you cut out the Wicket/Leia scene and went right from her fall of the speeder/Luke's fight to the search for Leia-capture?

That way we are with the heroes in wondering where Leia went...until she shows up at the village.

So we'd sorta have a little more fear that these little bears might really have the heroes for dinner until she appears. It adds some tension.
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Shane, that's the idea.........i'm not sure if we had already set in stone to cut that sequence, but I sure was going to bring it up. Your right, there is no reason to have that scene in, unless you feel like showing that cute side to the ewoks and the bland acting from Carrie Fisher. It should be cut, just like many of the jar jar scenes are cut. We've also already talked about how to change the ewoks for the movie earlier in the thread. We plan to change their dialect (sound) from some sort of samuri kind of sound and give them different battle cries as oppose to "WOOT WOOT WOOT". They will have a different theme music which will shy away from the "playful at times" track of the original.......not to mention we were thinking of adding in extra combat shots with the ewoks from the ewok movie dvd's (there are several cuts that can blend seamlessly with a little color correction). So the ewoks are definately in need of fixing and we should start by taking out that entire scene with leia/wickett.
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Hahaha! Samurai sounds! I love it!

Great ideas there guys. If anything, this project will at least make ROTJ into something....different. I shy away from saying better only because I loved the film as a kid and only later grew out of it for the most part(except the Vader/Luke/Palpatine stuff and a few other moments).

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Using footage from the Ewok movies would be great! And starting with Luke and Yode is a great idea
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Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
I agree with everything Darth Richard said, except for reversing the language tracks. You can always tell when audio has been reversed, and I think it will be distracting. Can we take a japanese track for the Niemodians and modulate it (or whatever) to sound like the Duros in the cantina? I think that would provide a nice bit of (small) continuity.


The reversed language track was something that always bothered me about people's edits of the prequels too. I think in Return of the Jedi they talked about how they first wanted to reverse an African tribal language for the ewoks, which of course sounds lame. Failing that, they simply reordered the syllables to create an incoherent speech pattern we all know as the ewok language. I'm actually not sure, it might just be my own great idea. The only problem is the background music and ambience that--whether you modulate it, reorder it, or reverse it--will show up under the Neimodian dialogue you create. This was something I ran into when I tried to re-edit the prequels.

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Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
The only problem is the background music and ambience that--whether you modulate it, reorder it, or reverse it--will show up under the Neimodian dialogue you create. This was something I ran into when I tried to re-edit the prequels.


I'm not saying we should re-use the Duros dialog from the cantina. I'm saying we should manipulate some other audio to make it sound similar to the Duros dialog. For example, we could take the Niemodian dialog from a forign track of Episode I (like Japanese), slow it down slightly, take out all the high frequencies, increase the bass, and maybe add a slight reverb or something. I'm no audio specialist, but something like that might sound close enough to the Duros in the cantina.

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Will any of the other titles form the other episodes be changed (ie. Attack of the Clones in now Shroud to the Dark Side).
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I think you guys should. Change all six.
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Hmmm, well actually we've all had this chat before. It is located in this thread and we seemed to had gotten off in a rant about titles for like 2 or 3 pages in the thread. Unfortunately the debate was soo exhausted that we decided to save talk of title changes for when the edits were completed. We could change some, none, or all of the titles....true........however there was a non agreement on which kind of titles to use and which movies needed changing. Myself, I would prefer the OT movies to keep their titles, considering that the whole purpose of these edits were to reorganize the prequel movies to compliment the OT more fittingly. However Ep.1 and 3 are fair game to me.

But we decided that discussion would be better used for the edits themselves and the details needed to iron out ideas and plot points to change. We could talk fanboy titles for months......but, as usual, any good ideas are always welcome.