Originally posted by: The BizzleI don't buy that. DVD purchases aren't investments. They're product. I pay for something because I want the product inside. I don't buy something in the hopes that a couple years down the road I'll finally get a chance to PAY again for what I wanted in the first place. SCARING me into a DVD purchase doesn't work, because DVD's aren't important enough (for as much as a film enthusiast as I am) to SCARE me into parting with my money. I wrote something similar at the HTF, but here's the general idea, as I see it:
In this instance, the movie I'm buying comes with a movie I already own and has been offered one more time after I already bought it, and the quality of the movie I REALLY want is sub-standard. Besides which, I already essentially OWN a copy in that sub-standard quality because the release is 13 years old.
If the only reward, for me, is that maybe in the future I'll get a return on my 20-30 dollar investment, essentially getting what I paid for a year or two down the road, then that's not much of a reward. That'd be like buying a movie ticket and then being told that MAYBE that movie will play 2 years later, so check back then.
Assuming how this is going to work is dangerous, because no one really assumed we'd get this. Ever. Maybe some of you did, but that's not really the point. There's also no guarantee that everyone buying this is going to mean they'll release it again. You could just as easily dream up a scenario where Lucas says "Well, look how many people bought that. See. Now they've got it. We dont' have to sweat it anymore. it sold like hotcakes so most of the people who could have ever wanted it now have it. They're happy. moving on."
It's just as easy to paint the picture that everyone buying it could ALSO mean it'll never get released again. It's just as speculative and specious.
The only thing you should be basing your purchase on is whether the product they're offering you is worth it FOR YOU. Don't buy it thinking it's an investment into later purchases you might make. That's essentially consumer blackmail. Eventually it's just going to leave a bitter taste in your mouth.
That's exactly right. The only reason I might buy this set is because all I own right now are VHS copies and I'd get a slight imporvement with a Laserdisc rip onto DVD. I've given up on Lucas. He shouldn't need any kind of stupid confirmation. A completely shit-brained idiot could see that the original trilogy would make a lot of money on DVD because of its fan base. I guess we all know what that makes Lucas.
Originally posted by: The Bizzle
and not to derail the thread into something political, but take a look at who owns what media outlets and then look at what their political affiliations are. Then look at the ownership of most major corporations and note THEIR political affiliations. It's pretty easy to see which way the powers that be typically lean.
but that's neither here nor there, really. Should probably be finished up in the Off-Topic forum.
In this instance, the movie I'm buying comes with a movie I already own and has been offered one more time after I already bought it, and the quality of the movie I REALLY want is sub-standard. Besides which, I already essentially OWN a copy in that sub-standard quality because the release is 13 years old.
If the only reward, for me, is that maybe in the future I'll get a return on my 20-30 dollar investment, essentially getting what I paid for a year or two down the road, then that's not much of a reward. That'd be like buying a movie ticket and then being told that MAYBE that movie will play 2 years later, so check back then.
Assuming how this is going to work is dangerous, because no one really assumed we'd get this. Ever. Maybe some of you did, but that's not really the point. There's also no guarantee that everyone buying this is going to mean they'll release it again. You could just as easily dream up a scenario where Lucas says "Well, look how many people bought that. See. Now they've got it. We dont' have to sweat it anymore. it sold like hotcakes so most of the people who could have ever wanted it now have it. They're happy. moving on."
It's just as easy to paint the picture that everyone buying it could ALSO mean it'll never get released again. It's just as speculative and specious.
The only thing you should be basing your purchase on is whether the product they're offering you is worth it FOR YOU. Don't buy it thinking it's an investment into later purchases you might make. That's essentially consumer blackmail. Eventually it's just going to leave a bitter taste in your mouth.
That's exactly right. The only reason I might buy this set is because all I own right now are VHS copies and I'd get a slight imporvement with a Laserdisc rip onto DVD. I've given up on Lucas. He shouldn't need any kind of stupid confirmation. A completely shit-brained idiot could see that the original trilogy would make a lot of money on DVD because of its fan base. I guess we all know what that makes Lucas.
Originally posted by: The Bizzle
and not to derail the thread into something political, but take a look at who owns what media outlets and then look at what their political affiliations are. Then look at the ownership of most major corporations and note THEIR political affiliations. It's pretty easy to see which way the powers that be typically lean.
but that's neither here nor there, really. Should probably be finished up in the Off-Topic forum.
Uhh, are you trying to say there is some kind of conspiracy where corporations control what news is reported for political reasons? And are you implying that "corporations" are executing a similar but different conspiracy to not advertise with a media outlet for political reasons? If so, then what's your evidence for any of that?
Anyways, even if there is evidence for such conspiracies, not every media outlet is owned by right-wingers. Especially once you figure in the internet. And as for corporations and their political afiliations, they aren't going to ignore good advertising time or keep people from being exposed to stories that are popular. Conspiracy theories are so silly to me. If left wing media outlets were actually profitable on the free market, even the most extreme right-wing corporation would promote it in order to make money. Making money is the chief concern of mainstream media outlets and their advertising corporations.
The mainstream media is not left wing or right wing. I actually wish it were one or the other, and then perhaps we'd get real news. Most of what you see on television, from ABC to CNN to Fox News is disgusting tabloid journalism and very rarely will you see it to be anything more. Unthinkingly simplistic and cheaply emotional, all of their stories and hype are spread for the sole purpose of increasing ratings. Mainstream media outlets, no matter how many socialist-leaning journalists work for them or free-market capitalists own them or advertise for them, care nothing for real news.
Oh, the following is a link to some funding data that I found a while back. Corporate support is pretty even handed when looking at each party. You can't lump all corporations onto the side of republicans.
http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/blio.asp?cycle=2004