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Originally posted by: Shimraa
they fear the SE, which leads to anger about there creation, which leads to hatrd for lucas. they are like a bunch of minny vaders. and the OT is padme. LOL


I've stated many times that I enjoy the SE, and that I have never hated, nor ever will hate, Lucas.

Most of us want the OT because we love the OT, not because we hate the SE. This battle is born of positives, not negatives.

Try to think (and read a bit) before you post.
For as much as some people claim to hate what Star Wars has become, they sure seem incapable of shutting up about it.
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"P.S. I read the anamophic faq things posted in the forum days earlier so get off the subject."

Read? Perhaps. Comprehended? You were never on, much less anywhere near, the subject to begin with.

"Unprocessed, unretouched raw bitmap screenshot from an early attempt at Super 8 film reel capture. Apologies if it's a tad huge!"

OMG! It ALMOST looks...........ANAMORPHIC!

"I don't need to fit in with the fanboys who blindly hate Lucas. While we are on the subject of changing aspect ratios we should make up wish lists."

Is it possible that the pot and the kettle can refer to the same person?

"hahaha there is a cancer in you ranks fanboys."

Maybe in your rank, not in ours - though I agree he is rank.

"The aspect ratio had no name but that is the dimentions used."

Aspect ratio and dimensions are two entirely different things. It's amazing how much you continue to prove how little you know with each new clarification. The "dimensions" of each shot of the film reels are nowhere near the "dimensions" of the actual projected image in a movie theater, in case you weren't aware of that. (Nor would they necessarily be the same between adjacent theaters, depending on the size of each theater). Hell, in the case of Silverwook's Super 8, the dimensions and the aspect ratio of the film frames are not the same as the projected image. So much for your quiant reasoning.

BTW, ran across this on TF.n.

Well, I saw the official news. It’s almost funny. It’s like Lucas has become a bad parody of himself. It’s like watching someone do a bad George Lucas impression, as they over-exaggerate every one of his tendencies. But with the official news, LucasFilm is also ready to start advertising these DVDs. And since I’m paid up and connected with the right people, I was sent an early transcript of the new commercials and I thought I’d share it with my fellow bashers.


The sound blares as the THX logo appears on screen informing us that this commercial has been digitally mastered for the best possible audio. This is followed by a notice saying, “This commercial is being offered in anamorphic widescreen for supreme picture quality.”

Big, bold letters begin to appear on screen.

IN 1977...

...ONE FILM CAPTURED THE WORLD’S IMAGINATION...

...THIS SEPTEMBER...

...IT’S BACK!

The Star Wars logo triumphantly appears onscreen accompanied by the familiar force fanfare blasting through the speakers. Shots from the original unaltered movies begin to appear on screen. But since the commercial is in anamorphic widescreen and the movies are not, the screenshots from the new DVDs look ridiculously small and blurry and are surrounded by resolution robbing black bars.

...ON SEPTEMBER 12TH...

...SEE THE ORIGINAL STAR WARS...

...AS YOU FIRST SAW THEM...

...ON LASERDISC IN 1993.

Sound effect of the needle being violently yanked off a record player. Shot of an ewok tilting his head back and forth in confusion.

VOICE-OVER: Yes, that’s right. Due to overwhelming fan demand, LucasFilm is proud to provide your chance to see Star Wars as it originally appeared on Laserdisc. After an extensive search of the LucasFilm archives...

Shot of a pile of dusty old film reels entitled Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi mixed in with rotten banana peels and empty soda cans.

VOICE-OVER: ...it was found that only the laserdisc masters had survived and most of the original film prints had deteriorated beyond repair...

Slow pan-up from the pile of dusty old film reels to reveal George Lucas standing above the pile. He gives the camera a wink and a nod then whips out a flame-thrower and promptly torches the pile.

VOICE-OVER: ...due to, uh, natural causes.

Shot of Lucas looking up from the still smoking pile of ash that used to be original film prints of the movies, he looks in the camera and gives a big smile and thumbs-up.

VOICE-OVER: The original movies you all loved so much will be included as bonus material to the 2004 Special Editions, since it seems this is the only way to get you mangy pack of defiant ingrates to buy Lucas’ ultimate vision for Star Wars, you make me sick, you bunch of stinkin’ bottom feeders. Why I oughta---

Sound effect of someone being clubbed over the head with a crowbar and dragged from the room. A new and different voice continues with the voice-over narration. Tiny, grainy screenshots from the new DVDs continue to roll on screen.

VOICE-OVER: That’s right, don’t miss your chance to yet again buy the 2004 versions. And since this release includes leftover, unsold copies of the 2004 Special Editions and shoddy letterbox transfers of the original editions from laserdisc, the only money we spent was hiring a three-legged, drunk and disgruntled goat to photoshop the cover art. Yes, LucasFilm is the only company capable of releasing a DVD set miles below industry standard and still have you pathetic nerds pawning your pocket protectors and calculator watches to crawl back and beg for more Star Wars! BWAHAHAHAHAHA---

Again we hear the sound effect of someone being clubbed over the head with a crowbar and dragged from the room. And again a new and different voice continues with the voice-over narration. Barely visible screenshots of the Han shooting first and Death Star explosion minus Stargate ring occupy roughly 50% of the screen

VOICE-OVER: Money, money, money! Gimme, gimme, gimme!

Yet again we hear the sound effect of someone being clubbed over the head with a crowbar and dragged from the room. And yet again a new voice continues with the voice-over narration as more fuzzy images of the original movies appear on screen.

VOICE-OVER: These DVDs are available in a limited release for a limited time with limited quality, so pre-order now at starwars.com! And on September 12th sit back, relax, grab you binoculars and squint at the magic of the original Star Wars on DVD!

DISCLAIMER: Any rebroadcast or coping of this commercial is punishable by tar and feathering.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: Darth Richard
Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
What you are asking for is for the movie to not only be in the original perspective but you want to be able to toggle that perspective to be something else. If you want a pure experience then stop asking for them to make it toggleble. The movie reels were never Anamorphic and there is no way to have made them that way. So stop asking for him to make DVD's that way. Yes, you can make the dvd support all of a DVD players options but that doesn't make it any truer to the original movie. That is the main reason to buy the release.

P.S. I read the anamophic faq things posted in the forum days earlier so get off the subject.


Are you a fool. the whole trilogy was filmed on 2.35.1 anamorphic film!!!!!!!!. they filmed it with a Panavison amnamorphic camera!


If that is the truth then I withdraw my arguments about the movie not being anamorphic. But I really don't care if the movie is released in letterbox. Letterbox has always worked for me.
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But I would like to see him go out into the middle of the road, get hit by a car Earl Hickey-style, and as he lies in a hospital with a broken leg and a neck brace, he writes out a list of all the things he's done wrong in life. Hopefully #1 will read, "Denied my fans the anamorphic DVD version of the orginal Star Wars." Is that wrong?


Yes. It's wrong and it's stupid and you're fucking over the site by continuing to pretend to be funny by posting it.

Look--Jay's trying to get a LOT of people's attention with this. People are going to come by here and check out the boards when they do to see what Star Wars fans are saying. LUCASFILM is going to swing by here, if they haven't already. You could be focusing your energy towards ensuring they understand what we want, and how easy it'd be to provide it, and how beneficial to them it'd be if they did that, even if it's just monetarily.

Instead stupid fucking deathfantasies are being posted all over the place and it makes the whole endeavor marginalized and nigh-pointless. Like the company is going to give us any sort of credit when the fans trying to get them to change their mind are practically masturbating over the concept of another man dying because of a home-video format dispute.

Stop marginalizing the site and marginalizing the effort that Jay and others are trying to put out here.
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"But I really don't care if the movie is released in letterbox. Letterbox has always worked for me."

Fine. Come back in a decade when your paper route earns you enough money to buy a widescreen TV, and you finally notice the problem.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Everybody listen to The Biz. It is rather silly to prize movies over the life of any living creature.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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You know what, 5 years in prison and that 250,000 dollar fines are looking better and better...
I don't want to cave in to buy the cheapest dvd's in human history, even if they are the last available releases of the OOT. I made the gravest mistakes getting any star wars movie on DVD. Lucas is in some absolute downward spiral. This is the last straw of the last straw.
I vehemently hate corporate America because of him.
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Another HOT topic (and rightly so) raging like an inferno through the OTC forum.......glad I wore my wet-suit to this party...... Just kidding folks.

On a lighter, more empassioned note...

Rebel Rouser makes a clear point. I, just as much as everyone else, wants to be able to re-live and enjoy the "magic" that I grew up with. The story that made me fall into the sci-fi rapture. I sorely miss the Original Trilogy.....and that is exactly what this home of homes for us fans is based on. Mr. Lucas is not the same man he was when he envisioned and fought to create a hysteria that at the time even he couldn't imagine.

Now, with the digital age upon us and corporate America running amok, even people in his capacity can forget where it is they come from.....especially when that is compiled with years of pressure, frustration, loss, success, and having fewer years ahead than you have behind. I am not fully convinced that it is Mr. Lucas who is behind some conspiracy to squash all those who he emblazened so long ago with a dream to create things that all people can enjoy and relate to even in some small way. That is what good film-making is all about.

People visit this site and hear about it through other means and it is up to US to show that as true fans, we are hoping that what once was, can be again. As true fans we need to stay determined and professional about our cause. We need to appeal to the side of Mr. Lucas that helped inspire this awesome site and fuel so many dreams and hopes, the side that believed in the magic of what he was born for and would set him apart from all his peers........the magic of the Original Trilogy.

I love this site and all it's possibilities.........we need to keep that thought close if we are going to move in the right direction.

Peace 2 All!!!!

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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: Rebel Rouser
Originally posted by: Shimraa
they fear the SE, which leads to anger about there creation, which leads to hatrd for lucas. they are like a bunch of minny vaders. and the OT is padme. LOL


I've stated many times that I enjoy the SE, and that I have never hated, nor ever will hate, Lucas.

Most of us want the OT because we love the OT, not because we hate the SE. This battle is born of positives, not negatives.

Try to think (and read a bit) before you post.


its a joke buddy relax.
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"So Lucasfilm's Radioland Murders is going to be anamorphic widescreen on DVD... but the ORIGINAL versions of the Star Wars films will not. How do you like them apples?" - Bill Hunt, the Digital Bits


LOL

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Oh, by the way I think someone posted on home theatre forum that Lucas had a three strip Technicolor print made of Star Wars made for his personal collection. That mock commercial was so funny. Someone should make it in something like flash animation.

Take back the trilogy. Execute Order '77

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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"But I really don't care if the movie is released in letterbox. Letterbox has always worked for me."

Fine. Come back in a decade when your paper route earns you enough money to buy a widescreen TV, and you finally notice the problem.


3000+ Posts eh? Looks like someone doesn't have a job. Probably no girlfriend neither.
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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"But I really don't care if the movie is released in letterbox. Letterbox has always worked for me."

Fine. Come back in a decade when your paper route earns you enough money to buy a widescreen TV, and you finally notice the problem.


3000+ Posts eh? Looks like someone doesn't have a job. Probably no girlfriend neither.


Just how long are the Mods going to allow you to troll this thread? I hope not much longer.

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

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While they are at it they can mod the ones with smart ass comments towards me. I tried to drop the debate two posts ago.
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d00d! Most of us here are fans with Jobs, wives or girlfriends! Don't come bad mouthing them! Jeez, chill!
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Some of us have jobs, wives, and girlfriends.

Er, I mean ...

I hope she doesn't read this.
"It's the stoned movie you don't have to be stoned for." -- Tom Shales on Star Wars
Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived.
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So, Radioland Murders comes out on DVD for the second time, and I'm still waiting for Howard the Duck!?
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Where were you in '77?

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You're right..I don't have a girlfriend. Between a full-time teaching job, an on-the-side DVD hobby, a wife and two children, I just don't have the time or energy for one.

Seems you know as much about me as you do about anamorphic.

Oh, and your account here is in far greater danger than mine. Do keep that in mind in your future posts.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112

3000+ Posts eh? Looks like someone doesn't have a job. Probably no girlfriend neither.

Sorry, MeBe isn't here right now. He's busy running his own business (video conversion wouldn'tcha know) and taking care of his wife and kids. You probably won't experience in your lifetime what he's been through in the first third of his. But don't worry, he'll be back shortly. 'Cause he actually means something to this community.

You, on the other hand, need to actually use the other hand once in a while. Might give you a different perspective on life.

P.S. I just ran the math and MeBe averages 3.4 posts a day. Yours is more than five times that. If post count = nerdiness, you win, hands down.
I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.
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Don't you mean, "Hand down".

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a confirmed burn here! ^_~

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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So let it be written. So let it be done. So let it be banned.
There's good in the Original Trilogy, and it's worth fighting for.
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."
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Let it be... naked... er, banned.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Skyranger

I am frustrated that we won't be getting decent quality DVDs...because they don't fit in with George Lucas' current "vision of the movies" (which seems to be constantly changing).

Exactly. He will never, ever, ever be satisfied. If he thinks the '04 set is his true vision of the OT, then he has some serious cataract action going on! You just know he'll be sitting around watching that set some day and think "ehh, Jabba looks fake. Let's re-do him."

Here's one way I would put it: Like George Lucas, I am also an artist, of the pen and pencil variety. There are things I drew when I was a little boy (including tons of Star Wars stuff) that my mother cherishes to this day. Imagine if now, I say to mom "those old drawings really don't represent what I'm able to do now and I don't like them anymore! I'm sorry you fell in love with those old doodles, but I feel no need for them to be around anymore." Then I take out my pens and draw over all of them, adding more detail, shading, etc..., thus covering up the originals she loved. Or worse yet, I take a lighter and burn them all before her eyes. She would be very hurt. To a large extent, that's what it's like with the OT and the constant tinkering, apathy and bad feelings that Lucas, and by extension, Lucasfilm, have for it.

Anyway, I am also very "meh" about most anything Lucasfilm says or does nowadays as pertains the OT. I take everything they say with a heaping bowl of salt, knowing that they go back on things they say a lot (maybe one day in the resting home, Lucas will finally crack/have had enough and shout out "Fine! Take your stupid anamorphic sets! They've existed for years anyway!"). With the constant re-releasing of the movies, you know that money really is a driving force with them. It's too bad that they won't spend the relative drop in a bucket it would cost to really restore the movies to a level consistent with its legacy.

Whereas I'm not excited about the forthcoming official set, I must say that I am very excited about some restoration sets and bonus discs that RowMan and Rikter will be sending me. I could only have found out about such great things here, where people are so concerned about seeing the movies we love the way we remember them and want to see them, anamorphic or not. Thanks to all for everything I've gained by hanging out here!

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