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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
Ha ha, that's funny. The originals were not anamporphic but people want Lucas to alter it to be Anamorphic. Don't f*** with my Original star wars. I want them to be in the real perspective and nothing more or less.


Here we go again, didn't someone already posted a thread with the meaning of anamorphic and what it implies??
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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
Ha ha, that's funny. The originals were not anamporphic but people want Lucas to alter it to be Anamorphic. Don't f*** with my Original star wars. I want them to be in the real perspective and nothing more or less.

Know what you're talking about before you start typing. Anamorphic is not an alteration, it is a video presentation method. It analogous to the difference between scanning a picture at web resolution vs. scanning it at print resolution. The image is the same, just with sharper detail for more modern equipment. No alteration or enhancement. Just a more detailed scan. But if you like, I suppose you can have your frames printed out on a dot-matrix printer to take advantage of 1983 resolution.

Lynne's response shows, just as the "Deliberate Creative Decision" debacle of 2004, that LFL isn't even taking the time to familiarize itself with the issue. She keeps talking about what would be involved in a restoration, and doesn't actually address the issue of an anamorphic presentation. Either they are stupid, or they think we are.

I think it is wonderfully ironic that THX is responsible for creating these legions of videophiles across the globe.
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I realize what it is but the original movie was not anamorphic. You want a real experience don't you? I imagine pretty soon someone is gonna request that you can watch the movies thru the Star wars font soon like in the dvd intros. Sure it isn't altering the movie, but it's a fun new way to watch it?
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There's nothing wrong with having the film presented to the best extent that DVD can provide. You are still comparing apples and oranges.

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The original movie was film, not video. Neither Anamorphic nor 4:3 letterbox applies to the original film. You're using video terms on a film source.

Your name makes me think you're a sock puppet. Hope its not one of the ones with legal action already threatened against you.
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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
I realize what it is but the original movie was not anamorphic.


Based on this sentence, no you don't know what it is.

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^^ LOL

"You're using video terms on a film source."

Agreed. By iamstillhiro1112's reasoning, just watching the films on anything other than being projected on a movie screen is the only "real perspective and nothing more or less."

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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New idea. How about sticking in a view that makes it look like Luke is looking thru his goggles in his space ship. And have an engine running in the background. We need to have at least 50 different perspectives.
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[Obi-wan] "These are not the boards you're looking for." [/Obi-wan]

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
New idea. How about sticking in a view that makes it look like Luke is looking thru his goggles in his space ship. And have an engine running in the background. We need to have at least 50 different perspectives.


Dude I have no idea what you are talking about, but I suggest you go here, at least read a little of it, and come back when you have at least a slight idea of what you are talking about.
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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
Ha ha, that's funny. The originals were not anamporphic but people want Lucas to alter it to be Anamorphic. Don't f*** with my Original star wars. I want them to be in the real perspective and nothing more or less.


I'm just going with the simple response of: "Huh?"
For as much as some people claim to hate what Star Wars has become, they sure seem incapable of shutting up about it.
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Originally posted by: AgenKolar
Originally posted by: yanksno1

Lucass is known for going back on his word, so I don't think the fight is over.

EDIT: Spelling.


the fight is over this time around. "Lucass" ha you sure are clever.

Sorry, should have been more clear (my bad). The fight's over this time around, but I fully expect to see something new next year, regardless of what Lucas says.

And, I thought the "Lucass" was really cleaver too. I know it was the 1st time you've guys seen it on these boards.
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I'm giving up on this whole thing. I just can't be bothered with it or the franchise that is Star Wars anymore. I have my Laserdisc rips, and I quite fancy myself as an underground resistance kinda guy, so I will not be buying the official releases. I'm broke anyway.

I received the same standard form e-mail (mine was from 'John Singh') and here's how I replied (which I must admit I borrowed from a classic quote made by Jay sometime last week):

Thanks for nothing. Excuse me while I go watch Return of the King.

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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
I realize what it is but the original movie was not anamorphic. You want a real experience don't you? I imagine pretty soon someone is gonna request that you can watch the movies thru the Star wars font soon like in the dvd intros. Sure it isn't altering the movie, but it's a fun new way to watch it?

You need to read this article so you can know what an anamorphic transfer really is.

Neil

Well at least the reversed surround channels have been addressed.

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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
I realize what it is but the original movie was not anamorphic.


You apparently have no clue what 2.35:1 really is. Go and play elsewhere. Or better: educate yourself. Using Google is a no-brainer nowadays.
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All of you are wrong, your insider info sucks.

I have it on good authority that the bonus material is actually a pristine transfer of the Turkish Star Wars from VHS.
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Originally posted by: Zebonka
All of you are wrong, your insider info sucks.

I have it on good authority that the bonus material is actually a pristine transfer of the Turkish Star Wars from VHS.
Now that I would pay for.

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What you are asking for is for the movie to not only be in the original perspective but you want to be able to toggle that perspective to be something else. If you want a pure experience then stop asking for them to make it toggleble. The movie reels were never Anamorphic and there is no way to have made them that way. So stop asking for him to make DVD's that way. Yes, you can make the dvd support all of a DVD players options but that doesn't make it any truer to the original movie. That is the main reason to buy the release.

P.S. I read the anamophic faq things posted in the forum days earlier so get off the subject.
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This has now gone way beyond just giving the fans the old "fist up the ass." We are now talking about the criminal neglect of one of the most influencial and historically important films in cinema history. To hell with Lucas's "vision." To hell with profit margins and sales quota. To firey hell with it all.

This is about preservation of HISTORY, and Lucas is trying to bury it in light of his rewritten version. Our culture's most provocational film is in jeopardy and if we quiet our voices, these movies will die.
"I am altering the movies. Pray I don't alter them any further." -Darth Lucas
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Man I wish we had the ignore function.
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Could there be some under the table work at Lucasfilm, in our favor?

Read this line again:
So many fans have requested the original movies, we wanted to find a way to bring them to you.
They had to find a way to give it to us. They couldn't just give it too us flat out (because Lucas forbids it), so they had to piggy back it on the SE DVDs.

But since these movies do not represent George's artistic vision, we could not put the extraordinary time and resources into this project as we did with the Special Editions.

Basically, "We would if we could, but Lucas is a prick so we can't."

They know we want it. That is why they are trying to get it out to us. But the enemy forces are hot on their shoulder and they can't very well give us what we want. I don't think Lucas will let them. So they are giving us these DVDs, promoting more of the "unaltered version" angle rather than "bonus, bonus, bonus."

I think the Lucasfilm workers are selling us the movies while George's emperial troops look on as the employees say, "Yes. Here are your DVDs, sir. *wink wink* They contain bonus material. *wink wink* It's not as good as the 2004 version... *gun cock noise*...the, er, definitive version, but I think you will have fun with this. Fun. *wink wink*"
"I am altering the movies. Pray I don't alter them any further." -Darth Lucas
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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
I read the anamophic faq things posted in the forum


Too bad you didn't understand it.

There were two morons over at HTF in the Star Wars thread who also argued that anamorphic enhancement on a DVD was somehow changing the original film--both of them members for over 5 years. They got railed by the other members.

You're likely to receive the same treatment here. We don't take kindly to dumbasses.
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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
What you are asking for is for the movie to not only be in the original perspective but you want to be able to toggle that perspective to be something else. If you want a pure experience then stop asking for them to make it toggleble. The movie reels were never Anamorphic and there is no way to have made them that way. So stop asking for him to make DVD's that way. Yes, you can make the dvd support all of a DVD players options but that doesn't make it any truer to the original movie. That is the main reason to buy the release.

P.S. I read the anamophic faq things posted in the forum days earlier so get off the subject.


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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
What you are asking for is for the movie to not only be in the original perspective but you want to be able to toggle that perspective to be something else. If you want a pure experience then stop asking for them to make it toggleble. The movie reels were never Anamorphic and there is no way to have made them that way. So stop asking for him to make DVD's that way. Yes, you can make the dvd support all of a DVD players options but that doesn't make it any truer to the original movie. That is the main reason to buy the release.

P.S. I read the anamophic faq things posted in the forum days earlier so get off the subject.


You read the anamorphic faq, yet you still clearly have no idea what anamorphic widescreen is. Your reading comprehension needs a lot of work.