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It Scares Me, Mommy!

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Alright, so I get home safely from college after an exhausting day of packing, cleaning, loading up the car, driving two and a half hours, and unloading the car to pop in Return of the Jedi on my '04 set. It was the only one I hadn't watched from my last marathon viewing, so I wanted to finish up. And I've had these discs for a year and a half, and I've watched them a fair number of times, but it was like I'd never seen them before! I wasn't even looking, and I saw garbage mattes all over the place! In the space battle, even in the speeder bike chase, which, for the past 11 years, on the '95 set and the '97 set has always looked perfect to me. I've never, ever noticed them before! Even on the '04 set, the only time I ever saw garbage mattes was in the TIE chase in Star Wars. Now, when I say in other threads that I want the matte lines and garbage mattes to be retained, let me make myself clear: I don't want them removed. I want them as visible as they originally were in theatres or in other original version releases. I've never seen them before, and I know at least one person here has said that his dad never noticed them in theatres. The garbage mattes are supposed to be there, but they've always been (except in maybe a few cases) nearly imperceptible. I don't know what the hell is wrong with these DVDs that suddenly make them so apparent. So I would like them (the garbage mattes, the matte lines, in the few times they are visible, are fine) to be not quite as visible, but I'm worried that that would cause them to go in and tinker... digitally remove them, paint over, stuff of that nature. But I find it very strange that they're suddenly popping up now when I've never noticed them before, even on this set.

As long as I'm here, let me just say that, even though I prepared myself for it, my heart still skipped a beat when suddenly Hayden appeared next to Ben and Yoda. It took me by surprise. And his second appearance isn't that bad (I mean, when it cuts to Luke and then cuts back to the ghosts), but his first... He just has this creepy, "Whoah, what the hell am I doing here?" look (which is precisely what we're thinking). But he's just looking around, his head's wandering around all over the place. It's just weird. I finally pinned down what's so weird about that shot, so I just decided to go ahead and write it here.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Funny--the 2004 disks were the only time i HAVENT seen garbage mattes. Anywhere. It looks pretty nice to me. Are you sure you just havent adjusted your tv to be brighter since 1995??
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I still watch my '95s on a regular basis, so...

Besides, I haven't been around this TV much in the past four months (been at college, ya know). The only person who's been using it has been my mother, and I can pretty much guarantee that she has no idea how to change the brightness.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Maybe there was some sort of read error that threw off the matte-line correction.

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no they are there all right. The clean up job by Lowry Digital just made them stick out more like a sore thumb, I can't believe they could spend time and money revising the effects for the special edition and not digitallly correct or remove them. That is what I and a lot of people think the special editions should have been, not crappy cgi that ruins the original story to fit with the shoddy prequels.

I simply cannot believe that Lucasfilm rushed this release and gave Lowry like only three months lead time, when they had about a year on indiana jones trilogy. Plus the color correction is plain horrible, and the sound mix on a new hope is so badly screwed up that I hope Ben Burtt had nothing to do with it and their deliberate creative decision.

I hope that if they ever plan on releasing them theatrical again, or putting them on a high def format they restore them painstakingly frame by frame, and screw all this automatic restore crap.

and on top of that it is just a joke that they could'nt pay mark hamill and harrison ford a liitle bit of money so they would be on the commentary track. I like ben burtt and all but he has way too much on there.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
What are garbage mattes?

Read this.

http://www.x0project.com/graphics/tie.gif

Also, if your television is calibrated to the correct standard, you should not see the mattes at all on the discs. One reviewer mentioned using the above shot from "The Film Formerly Known as Star Wars" to set your "Brightness" or "Black Level" control. Once the matte disappears, you have the correct setting.

Neil

Well at least the reversed surround channels have been addressed.

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So if I adjust the TV, they shouldn't be visible? Okay, great!

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
So if I adjust the TV, they shouldn't be visible? Okay, great!


I've found the best adjustment settings for your TV, while watching any of the SEs or the PT is as follows:

1) Press the 'Power Off' button on your TV.

2) Enjoy.
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Heh, I'll have to keep that in mind, greencapt. You must hang out in the preservation boards, because I don't see you around here much lately.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Heh, I'll have to keep that in mind, greencapt. You must hang out in the preservation boards, because I don't see you around here much lately.


LOL... no its worse than that- I have a two-month old child... my first! I don't see ME around here lately!
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Ah, a baby. How wonderful! Two months old? Does that mean he was born in March? I was born in March! On the 7th, to be exact!

EDIT: It feels like it's been so long, but I seem to actually recall you mentioning your baby before at the time. Sorry for my forgetfulness.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Ah, a baby. How wonderful! Two months old? Does that mean he was born in March? I was born in March! On the 7th, to be exact!

EDIT: It feels like it's been so long, but I seem to actually recall you mentioning your baby before at the time. Sorry for my forgetfulness.


She was born March 20th.

Forgetfulness?!?!?!?! The mother-truckin' OT is coming out on DVD, possibly for *real* this time, and you're worried about remembering minor details about me??? Perish the thought my man!!!
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
So if I adjust the TV, they shouldn't be visible? Okay, great!


I've found the best adjustment settings for your TV, while watching any of the SEs or the PT is as follows:

1) Press the 'Power Off' button on your TV.

2) Enjoy.


LOL!
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