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A Series of Questions for Socialism's Proponents — Page 2

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Originally posted by: JediSage
I would be for anarchy if ALL citizens were armed. An armed society is a polite society. It would be a necessity also to defend against invaders.

Then you would pretty much have a Mad Max/Escape from NY scenario. The streets would be like Quake 3 maps.


I've heard this many times when "concealed carry" laws have been debated in this country, and it's been shown time and time again that in areas where people can carry guns on their person the crime rate has DROPPED.

An armed society is a polite society? Please explain that logic!


It's the same logic that says the mere presence of a gun means someone will pick it up and use it illegally!

I hardly belive being polite has anything to do with shooting people!


It's called a metaphor, Ric. It means that violent criminals (rich ones as well as "poor" ones) are less likely to attack someone who may be armed.
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If it is against the law to posess firearms, then anyone in a position of strength, say a 300 pound burly guy with muscles on his teeth, ready for some trouble, comes across a 120 pound woman in the parking lot. If he knows for a fact she unarmed and he wants something from her, nothing is stopping him from attacking.

If she might be concealing a deringer underneath her coat, he might reconsider and go on home.

It is a question of who is in a superior position in life:

A woman whose been raped and murdered?

Or a woman holding a smoking gun over the body of the would-be rapist?

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
If it is against the law to posess firearms, then anyone in a position of strength, say a 300 pound burly guy with muscles on his teeth, ready for some trouble, comes across a 120 pound woman in the parking lot. If he knows for a fact she unarmed and he wants something from her, nothing is stopping him from attacking.

If she might be concealing a deringer underneath her coat, he might reconsider and go on home.

It is a question of who is in a superior position in life:

A woman whose been raped and murdered?

Or a woman holding a smoking gun over the body of the would-be rapist?


LOL what if instead of allowing people to have guns, we just provide free gym for everyone to be strong enough to defend themselves from such a hipotesis? Well, I mean, imagine, everyone truly muscular, it would be like a Village People dream coming true.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Well, then you must remember that if a small woman and a large man work out equally, or even if the small woman works out a bitmore, it is still likely that the man will be able to overpower her. And of course, realistically, your suggestion is impossible anyway.

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And hopefully the person won't pick up a baseball bat or a knife...
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I find it extremely unlikely that an unarmed, law-abiding populace is somehow safer with an ARMED criminal element in their midst. And, again, they don't need to be armed with guns. All comes down to a balance of power.
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I have an idea - let's kill EVERYBODY.


Hooray for large-scale manslaughter!

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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I have an idea - let's kill EVERYBODY.


Hooray for large-scale manslaughter!


All we need is a nuclear war!
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I have an idea - let's kill EVERYBODY.


Hooray for large-scale manslaughter!


All we need is a nuclear war!


Woo hoo!

Then we can play that scene of Jeff Goldblum bitching about it in ID4 on continual loop...

"Maybe if we screw this planet up enough, they won't want it anymore!"

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I have an idea - let's kill EVERYBODY.


Hooray for large-scale manslaughter!


All we need is a nuclear war!
I really believe that is the only answer to mankind's problems. It would be a fitting end to our stupid race.

War does not make one great.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Originally posted by: ricarleite
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I have an idea - let's kill EVERYBODY.


Hooray for large-scale manslaughter!


All we need is a nuclear war!
I really believe that is the only answer to mankind's problems. It would be a fitting end to our stupid race.


Lets ressurect Jesus!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by: JediSage
I find it extremely unlikely that an unarmed, law-abiding populace is somehow safer with an ARMED criminal element in their midst. And, again, they don't need to be armed with guns. All comes down to a balance of power.


That's why you ban all automatic and semi-automatic weapons and make it illegal to own a firearm without a gun license. That's what we do in Australia, and it works. Checkout our track record, I'm sure you can find it somewhere.
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I really believe that is the only answer to mankind's problems. It would be a fitting end to our stupid race.


I totally agree. If Nietzsche hadn't killed God in a pistol duel back in 1882, the almighty Lord would be flooding the land right now and ending this insanity once and for all.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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*sigh* surely there must be some better solution than total destruction.
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We could make everybody but us kill themselves that isn't total destruction.
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That also isn't a good solution.
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there must a more peaceful solution to our problems than that.
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Originally posted by: Warbler
there must a more peaceful solution to our problems than that.


Well, there's, uh... there's, there's this uh... thing, you know? Called, uh... peace, and uh... and it just, is like, uh, kinda like... no one killing people anymore, you see, and uh... stuff like that, and, well, this peace thing, I don't know, we could at least, you know, try it... for uh, maybe a month or so, and if we don't like it we could switch back into being, uh... you know, violent stupid people and stuff...
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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*sigh* let us not get into the violence debate again. I believe we all know where each of us stand on that. And, if you want to get into that debate again, revive the violence debate thread and debate it there.