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Eventually we will get clarification on all of this. So we wait.
Eventually we will get clarification on all of this. So we wait.
The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have! — Page 6
Eventually we will get clarification on all of this. So we wait.
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Yeah, because you can really enjoy the story, characters, emotion, and fun when you can't see or hear anything well.
Yeah, because you can really enjoy the story, characters, emotion, and fun when you can't see or hear anything well.
Hey everyone - check out the drama queen!
C'mon, you can't be serious. It's a fucking DVD, not a Zoetrope.
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well he did, and he should, they are HIS after all, he has every right in the world to change them, and he also has every right in the world to not release the O-OT, which BTW he so nicely decided to release after you all complained and signed this lovely petition
let him do what he wants with the movies now that you have your precious O-Ot even though you despise the fact that its not "anamotronic" or wutever, and then some of you turn around and just say how lucas does everything based on money
you guys are crazy
of course not all of you, just most of you
im leaving this site, for good
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WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT VIDEO? NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE! LASERDISK RIPS? WHERE IS THAT MENTIONED IN THE NEWS RELEASE??
Seriously. People are talking about LD rips as if it were fact. Was there a second press release i missed??
Jim Ward said the video will be from 1993 and inferior to the Lowry-restored 2004 release. Duh!! How does that translate to "we are taking the Laserdisk masters and putting them on dvd"? Were that the case, would it not make sense to use the 1995 THX release??
I'll tell you what Ward's comments MOST LIKELY mean. When the SE was first being worked on, the first thing they did was return to the original negatives, and it was found that they had deteriorated quite a bit, and so they began restoration work to clean them. When that was done, the newly-cleaned OOT prints were handed to ILM for the CGI additons. What year was this?
1993.
Did i hear complaints about the image quality in theaters in 1997? Hell no. But Ward is correct--they are inferior to the 2004 Lowry-restored prints. There may be a bit of dirt and scatches. But still. It looks good. Had Ward not informed us that the transfer will be from inferior 1993 prints we would have all assumed that we were getting Lowry-restored OOT's that look as good as the 2004, and then we would have seiged Skywalker Ranch in september when we discovered this was not the case.
The Lowry 2004 editions are the SE. They did not even touch the OOT for this--their starting point for the digital restoration was the 1997 SE print with CGI additions. That is why they must use the 1993 OOT master that they made for the original SE.
This is all of course unconfirmed but it is the only logical explaination. Time will tell and until we know more--KNOW ANYTHING, in fact--about the actual video we will have to shut up about. Dolby 2.0? That was what the films were originally released. I for one am pleased that we get this instead of a phony 1990's DD 5.1 mix.
There is so much complaining here about NOTHING that it is making me sick. We got what we wanted, and more i might add--the original theatrical edition of Star Wars has never been available on home video. So what the fuck is everyones goddamn problem?? Yeah, this should have been out years ago, and yeah i dont really want the 2004 disk with this, but so what? I mean thats not a big deal for gods sakes. At with a suggested retail price of $30, meaning it will actually be sold for $20-25 (no one sells for the ACTUAL retail price) I'd consider this the dvd bargain of the year.
Fuck.
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Dont leave
This is something I thought I would never see in my lifetime, Im buying them DVDs whatever come September 12th, and me personally am actually very grateful that he has changed his mind in releasing the unaltered trilogy for whatever reason.
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Originally posted by: zombie84
okay, ive said it at least twice before but it has gone to no effect i see.
WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT VIDEO? NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE! LASERDISK RIPS? WHERE IS THAT MENTIONED IN THE NEWS RELEASE??
Seriously. People are talking about LD rips as if it were fact. Was there a second press release i missed??
Jim Ward said the video will be from 1993 and inferior to the Lowry-restored 2004 release. Duh!! How does that translate to "we are taking the Laserdisk masters and putting them on dvd"? Were that the case, would it not make sense to use the 1995 THX release??
I'll tell you what Ward's comments MOST LIKELY mean. When the SE was first being worked on, the first thing they did was return to the original negatives, and it was found that they had deteriorated quite a bit, and so they began restoration work to clean them. When that was done, the newly-cleaned OOT prints were handed to ILM for the CGI additons. What year was this?
1993.
Did i hear complaints about the image quality in theaters in 1997? Hell no. But Ward is correct--they are inferior to the 2004 Lowry-restored prints. There may be a bit of dirt and scatches. But still. It looks good. Had Ward not informed us that the transfer will be from inferior 1993 prints we would have all assumed that we were getting Lowry-restored OOT's that look as good as the 2004, and then we would have seiged Skywalker Ranch in september when we discovered this was not the case.
The Lowry 2004 editions are the SE. They did not even touch the OOT for this--their starting point for the digital restoration was the 1997 SE print with CGI additions. That is why they must use the 1993 OOT master that they made for the original SE.
This is all of course unconfirmed but it is the only logical explaination. Time will tell and until we know more--KNOW ANYTHING, in fact--about the actual video we will have to shut up about. Dolby 2.0? That was what the films were originally released. I for one am pleased that we get this instead of a phony 1990's DD 5.1 mix.
There is so much complaining here about NOTHING that it is making me sick. We got what we wanted, and more i might add--the original theatrical edition of Star Wars has never been available on home video. So what the fuck is everyones goddamn problem?? Yeah, this should have been out years ago, and yeah i dont really want the 2004 disk with this, but so what? I mean thats not a big deal for gods sakes. At with a suggested retail price of $30, meaning it will actually be sold for $20-25 (no one sells for the ACTUAL retail price) I'd consider this the dvd bargain of the year.
Fuck.
okay, ive said it at least twice before but it has gone to no effect i see.
WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT VIDEO? NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE! LASERDISK RIPS? WHERE IS THAT MENTIONED IN THE NEWS RELEASE??
Seriously. People are talking about LD rips as if it were fact. Was there a second press release i missed??
Jim Ward said the video will be from 1993 and inferior to the Lowry-restored 2004 release. Duh!! How does that translate to "we are taking the Laserdisk masters and putting them on dvd"? Were that the case, would it not make sense to use the 1995 THX release??
I'll tell you what Ward's comments MOST LIKELY mean. When the SE was first being worked on, the first thing they did was return to the original negatives, and it was found that they had deteriorated quite a bit, and so they began restoration work to clean them. When that was done, the newly-cleaned OOT prints were handed to ILM for the CGI additons. What year was this?
1993.
Did i hear complaints about the image quality in theaters in 1997? Hell no. But Ward is correct--they are inferior to the 2004 Lowry-restored prints. There may be a bit of dirt and scatches. But still. It looks good. Had Ward not informed us that the transfer will be from inferior 1993 prints we would have all assumed that we were getting Lowry-restored OOT's that look as good as the 2004, and then we would have seiged Skywalker Ranch in september when we discovered this was not the case.
The Lowry 2004 editions are the SE. They did not even touch the OOT for this--their starting point for the digital restoration was the 1997 SE print with CGI additions. That is why they must use the 1993 OOT master that they made for the original SE.
This is all of course unconfirmed but it is the only logical explaination. Time will tell and until we know more--KNOW ANYTHING, in fact--about the actual video we will have to shut up about. Dolby 2.0? That was what the films were originally released. I for one am pleased that we get this instead of a phony 1990's DD 5.1 mix.
There is so much complaining here about NOTHING that it is making me sick. We got what we wanted, and more i might add--the original theatrical edition of Star Wars has never been available on home video. So what the fuck is everyones goddamn problem?? Yeah, this should have been out years ago, and yeah i dont really want the 2004 disk with this, but so what? I mean thats not a big deal for gods sakes. At with a suggested retail price of $30, meaning it will actually be sold for $20-25 (no one sells for the ACTUAL retail price) I'd consider this the dvd bargain of the year.
Fuck.
YES! I totally agree everyone here to STFU until we get more info in probably 2 monthes or something.
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"If it's such a high profile release, why is it being referred to as "bonus material" in the official literature?"
Agreed.
"if you love the technical shit so much, piss off and watch the 2004 version..."
Actually, it's the technical stuff that keeps me from watching the '04 version.
"well he did, and he should, they are HIS after all, he has every right in the world to change them, and he also has every right in the world to not release the O-OT"
No one disputes this. And don't let the door hit you on the way out.
"LASERDISK RIPS? WHERE IS THAT MENTIONED IN THE NEWS RELEASE??"
You mean like the press release that stated Shaw was replaced with Hayden prior to the '04 DVD release? I don't recall seeing that one either.
"I'll tell you what Ward's comments MOST LIKELY mean."
Interesting. You blast other people's interpretation, and now give your own. Didn't you just say, in the very same post, that "NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
"This is all of course unconfirmed but it is the only logical explaination."
"NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
"We got what we wanted, and more i might add"
"NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
"We got what we wanted, and more i might add"
"NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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I am very cautious about this set, but an optimistic cautious. I am not an expert on 1993 transfers, D2, or any of this stuff you guys talk about, but in the end I just want something that is good DVD quality that will make everyone happy, and I have stated in everyone of my posts, I just can't see Lucas putting out some hack transfer that looks like shit.
As much as Lucas has burned us over the years, I still have faith that this set will make a majority of us happy, and the minority I think will always be bitching cause Lucas has burned them too many times.
I understand why fans don't trust Lucas, and I understand why fans hate him, but we have to just wait and see. The infighting here is so ironic, that we banded together to get something we really wanted, and now we finally got it, but don't know exactly what we got yet, and we are falling to pieces!
I mentioned a few months ago when IGN.com made the O-OT #1 on their list for most wanted DVD's, and that was the trench run in SW. And even though we won the battle, the war was still going on, it was just a first step. This is like ESB, we are definitely making progress, but there are couple of bumps in the road and it kinda looks like we are losing in some respects, and either we can stand together and be patient, or just give up. By early September, that will be the second attack on the death star in ROTJ, and this will finally be our chance to win this thing, lets atleast wait til then before we shoot ourselves in the foot. Trust me guys, we are still winning, but we haven't won yet.
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"LASERDISK RIPS? WHERE IS THAT MENTIONED IN THE NEWS RELEASE??"
You mean like the press release that stated Shaw was replaced with Hayden prior to the '04 DVD release? I don't recall seeing that one either.
So because the previous DVD failed to mention Hayden replaced Sebastian shaw that means that we will recieve an LD-transfer?? Where is the logic in that?? If anything we should take that to mean that Hayden will replace Sebastian shaw in this release as well but of course that is just nonsensical assumptions.
"LASERDISK RIPS? WHERE IS THAT MENTIONED IN THE NEWS RELEASE??"
You mean like the press release that stated Shaw was replaced with Hayden prior to the '04 DVD release? I don't recall seeing that one either.
So because the previous DVD failed to mention Hayden replaced Sebastian shaw that means that we will recieve an LD-transfer?? Where is the logic in that?? If anything we should take that to mean that Hayden will replace Sebastian shaw in this release as well but of course that is just nonsensical assumptions.
"I'll tell you what Ward's comments MOST LIKELY mean."
Interesting. You blast other people's interpretation, and now give your own. Didn't you just say, in the very same post, that "NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
The difference is that mine has a logical process to it. You other people are just saying "1993!?! OH NOZ! THAT MEANS LASERDISK!!11!" Again, how does that equal Laserdisk? If they wanted to use Laserdisk it would stand to reason that they would use the THX remasters from 1995. Nothing about "1993=Laserdisk" makes any sense.
And I also reinforced that even my hypothesis is unconfirmed. Notice the giant captial MOST LIKELY. But looking at it logically it is the most logical conclusion to be drawn, but given that nearly everything about the video is unconfirmed this is not definite until we actually find out.
"We got what we wanted, and more i might add"
"NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
Interesting. You blast other people's interpretation, and now give your own. Didn't you just say, in the very same post, that "NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
The difference is that mine has a logical process to it. You other people are just saying "1993!?! OH NOZ! THAT MEANS LASERDISK!!11!" Again, how does that equal Laserdisk? If they wanted to use Laserdisk it would stand to reason that they would use the THX remasters from 1995. Nothing about "1993=Laserdisk" makes any sense.
And I also reinforced that even my hypothesis is unconfirmed. Notice the giant captial MOST LIKELY. But looking at it logically it is the most logical conclusion to be drawn, but given that nearly everything about the video is unconfirmed this is not definite until we actually find out.
"NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
"We got what we wanted, and more i might add"
"NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE VIDEO WILL BE LIKE!"
Uh, i wasnt talking about video quality i was talking about content. We asked for the OOT--we got the freakin O-OOT, the one we NEVER even expected to get on video ever!
There is a great difference between bashing Lucasfilm for giving us LD-transfers and actually logically working through the information and arriving at a temporary hypothesis and when you actually look at it rationally you can see that there is no reason to believe it will be LD-rips. So if its not LD-rips then what is it? Again, using evidence and logic you can reason that the most likely explaination is that it will be a new telecine from the 1993 print.
The 1993=Laserdisk argument is completely idiotic. Because thats all there is to it--there was a Laserdisk released in 1993; therefore the dvd will that. Huh?? Real solid evidence guys.
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Actually, it's your logic. I simply applied it to another scenario. Perhaps now you see the problem with your logic?
"If anything we should take that to mean that Hayden will replace Sebastian shaw in this release as well but of course that is just nonsensical assumptions."
Nope, not the point I was making with your logic. I guess you don't see the problem. It's not what they are saying about the DVDs, it's what they aren't that concerns me. More will likely be known as time goes on, but the Hayden change, which was leaked several months before the actual release, wasn't proven to be true until about 2 weeks before the actual release. Don't you find it interesting that LFL kept a lid on that little nugget for so long? What would be the point?
"The difference is that mine has a logical process to it. You other people are just saying "1993!?! OH NOZ! THAT MEANS LASERDISK!!11!""
Ah, blanket accusations. Does that also fit into your "logical process"? I never said anything like that. I just find it interesting that a specific date was mentioned.
"Uh, i wasnt talking about video quality i was talking about content."
So then it doesn't matter to you what the quality of said content is? To me, the two should go hand in hand. I'm weird that way. Point of fact, the only P&S DVD I own is Remo Williams, because I'm pretty sure there will never be a Special Edition of that film later on. Other than that, I buy widescreen and nothing else. Hell, I don't even own Muppet Treasure Island, despite it being one of my favorite muppet films (Tim Curry!
). I bring this up because I recall a press release saying a widescreen version was coming. I should check in on that. 
"The 1993=Laserdisk argument is completely idiotic. Because thats all there is to it--there was a Laserdisk released in 1993; therefore the dvd will that. Huh?? Real solid evidence guys."
Again, I never stated this, but it is a possibility. It's equally idiotic to state matter of factly that it won't be a laserdisc rip, right?
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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I'm not saying we definitly WONT get an LD-transfer. I'm also not saying we WONT get a VHS transfer. But what reason is there to believe we will get either one of those? None! Trust me, i am concerned about quality, I work in the motion picture CINEMATOGRAPHY department for gods sake, and if there was reason to believe we are getting an LD transfer i would be dissapointed. But I'm not, because there is nothing to suggest as much.
Literally the LD argument rests solely upon "1993" and "less pristince [than the 2004 dvd]." Which are explained by the fact that the OOT was restored and archived in 1993 and are also obviously not quite as good as the 2004 dvds. Again, even this is still unconfirmed but if you want to try to figure out from the vague statments made what kind of video we will be getting, this is the most rational explaination.
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Specifying a specific year, as well as the technology of that year, is a pretty odd thing to do. Wouldn't you agree?
"if you want to try to figure out from the vague statments made what kind of video we will be getting, this is the most rational explaination."
How rational was it for Lucas to put a sticker on the 95 LDs that it was the last time to buy the original versions? How rational was it for Lucas to recently say that the O-OT were half-finished films, and that they never existed, within a timeframe of these films that would suggest he was well aware of these DVDs coming out soon? Why would LFL spend so much time and money on versions that Lucas has publicly disavowed for almost 10 years? Is that logical?
If you have have spent any real time reading Lucas' quotes about his films, you would drop this "rational" reasoning very quickly. Now, this is not to say that the "1993" quote proves that the DVDs will be laserdisc rips, but it punches a huge hole in this belief of how "reasonable" LFL can be. Hell, the "creative differences" excuse for the '04 soundtrack punches an even bigger hole in your logic.
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"The "Hayden replaces Shaw" thing has no comparison to this. Yes, once rumors started leaking there was some reason to wonder--but what rumors have leaked about an LD transfer? None! Its all based off the two "1993" and "less pristine" comments by Jim Ward which have more reaonsable explainations regarding the original cleanup and archiving of the OOT for the special edition."
Specifying a specific year, as well as the technology of that year, is a pretty odd thing to do. Wouldn't you agree?
"The "Hayden replaces Shaw" thing has no comparison to this. Yes, once rumors started leaking there was some reason to wonder--but what rumors have leaked about an LD transfer? None! Its all based off the two "1993" and "less pristine" comments by Jim Ward which have more reaonsable explainations regarding the original cleanup and archiving of the OOT for the special edition."
Specifying a specific year, as well as the technology of that year, is a pretty odd thing to do. Wouldn't you agree?
Not really. Its the year that the OOT was archived and cleaned up. Whats odd is to somehow jump the gun and say its a Laserdisk. Really the problem is that Jim Ward was specific enough to get us guessing but not specific enough to keep us from jumping the gun. He should have said either that it was a Laserdisk transfer or a new print. But UNTIL HE SAYS IT IS A LASERDISK TRANSFER, we must take the lack of Laserdisk speak as meaning that this is not the case. The burden of proof is on you to prove that it is a Laserdisk transfer, and the simple fact that it is from 1993 is not nearly strong enough to make such a wild accusation, especially when you consider that the OOT was archived in 1993, meaning ANY future version would be from the 1993 print. Hence it is EXPECTED that this version be from 1993!
I realise though that the sometimes misleading and contradicting actions of Lucasfilm as of late have caused people to be wary, especially since this all seems too good to be true. And trust me, I'm not 100% trusting of them either. But really, until we have any reason to believe they will be Laserdisk rips we must assume they are not. The fact that it will be from 1993 and less pristine than the 2004 is not only explained by countless other reasons but if you think about it, unless the new dvds are going to be restored by Lowry digital to create a new Internegative, which we have no reason to believe is the case, the OOT would have to be less pristine and from 1993. So this is why is vehemently reject the LD theory.
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I am not trying to prove anything. I simply won't be surprised if it's a laserdisc transfer. That's all I saying.
It would be nice to know what was the source of the O-OT snippets in the "Empire of Dreams" documentary.
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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This September: Original Unaltered Trilogy on DVD
May 03, 2006
Fans can look forward to a September filled with classic Star Wars nostalgia, led by the premiere of LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy video game and the long-awaited DVD release of the original theatrical incarnations of the classic Star Wars trilogy.
In response to overwhelming demand, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release attractively priced individual two-disc releases of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Each release includes the 2004 digitally remastered version of the movie and, as bonus material, the theatrical edition of the film. That means you'll be able to enjoy Star Wars as it first appeared in 1977, Empire in 1980, and Jedi in 1983.
See the title crawl to Star Wars before it was known as Episode IV; see the pioneering, if dated, motion control model work on the attack on the Death Star; groove to Lapti Nek or the Ewok Celebration song like you did when you were a kid; and yes, see Han Solo shoot first.
This release will only be available for a limited time: from September 12th to December 31st. International release will follow on or about the same day. Each original theatrical version will feature Dolby 2.0 Surround sound, close-captioning, and subtitles in English, French and Spanish for their U.S. release. International sound and subtitling vary by territory.
"Over the years, a truly countless number of fans have told us that they would love to see and own the original version that they remember experiencing in theaters," said Jim Ward, President of LucasArts and Senior Vice President of Lucasfilm Ltd. "We returned to the Lucasfilm Archives to search exhaustively for source material that could be presented on DVD. This is something that we're very excited to be able to give to fans in response to their continuing enthusiasm for Star Wars. Topping it off with a new interactive adventure makes September 12 a red-letter day for Star Wars fans."
That's also the day fans will be able to experience the LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy video game, the action-packed sequel -- filled with tongue-in-cheek humor -- to one of the best selling video games of 2005. To see the trailer to the new game from LucasArts and TT Games, click here!
Click here to order your copy of the game today. To order the first in a series of t-shirts to commemorate the return of the original unaltered trilogy, click here.
Here is the link
Did it say before that the DVD's will 'feature' 2.0 surround?
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And MeBeJedi i know you yourself werent going around saying "THE DVD IS THE LD" but many others are and you were defending their stance. Its amazing how much people are making out of nothing.
Also, Jim Ward is well-regarded dvd producer and he says himself that he's been waiting a long time to this OOT dvd and that he is pleased to finally bring it--it would be extremely professionally embarassing to simply port the laserdisk transfer.
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The stuff about 1993 came from Jim Ward in the USA Today article
Huh, I thought I read it on SW.com.
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I happen to think zombie84 is correct - it makes perfect sense. Besides, regardless of whether it's a transfer taken from the same master as the laserdiscs or the 1993 cleanup for the special editions ... IT'S GOING TO LOOK A SHIT-LOAD BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. So stop bitching, honestly. When it's released, if it's a fuckup like the 2004 DVDs were, *then* you can start bitching, although many will still have the pissed-off "they got what they want, and they're STILL bitching" attitude.
So can we please start acting civil around here again? I never in my life expected an announcement with such great potential as this one to turn people *here* into blithering idiotic assholes, but it has. I suggest that everyone who's had a bad attitude since Wednesday's announcement take about a week or at least a few days away from these boards to cool off, then come back. I won't be naming any names, but you should know who you are, and everybody else certainly does.
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I agree that a print taken from the master should be better than a laserdisc rip. Its just that some of the worst DVDs were hastly done laserdisc rips. It wasn't a good thing to hear when they refer to the O-OT release as a "bonus feature" for yet another packaging of the 2004 DVD's. And after the lousy job done on the 2004 DVDs, I for one am a bit worred that it will be another mess-up. But the good news is that if they don't do another Lowry-style remastering, and screw up the colors, yes, I think it will be better than what we have. Even if they just do a rip from the Definitive Edition/Faces master, it should be better than any of our current laserdisc transfers that we currently have. I just wonder if they couldn't of done better, given what we are talking about here. But also, they have already changed the statement on the website. I really hope that means they are going to treat this better than it first sounded like they were.
But it seems like this thread has decended into too much hostility. Lighten up people. Its not that big of a deal. I mean, what is the worst that can happen? Its not any better than what we already have? So what? Keep the fan-made transfers, or watch the laserdiscs. If it is better, good. We'll all be happy. Even if they don't have the alternate audio tracks, I'm sure it will be a matter of time before someone rips the offical DVDs, and put the Mono Track on it, or maybe even the PCM audio from the laserdisc/Cowclops set. Any way we go, we still win in the end.
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Maybe I'm just giving a wishlist here, and not what I should realistically expect, but I would of liked a 5.1 track remastered from the 6 channel matrix mix. and the mono mix, with the audio differences. But once again, it was just my wishing, and maybe I should be happy with what we are getting. Sorry if I sounded too mad about it. I didn't mean to come across that way.
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This would also explain the whole 1993 comment. As has been said, it's not going to look as good as the 2004 DVDs because they're not going to have Lowry do any color correction on it. I imagine they'll take the digital master from 1993 and stick it on a DVD. And even if they don't, it can't look any worse than what we already have.
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LOL...dude, that is not what we are saying.
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>