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ITS HAPPENED-- OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM — Page 4
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But you know - it's an interesting about-face isn't it? That Ward guy (in the announcement of the '04 set) was all "we appreciate that people want to see the originals (I'm paraphrasing heavily, I don't have his statement on me at the moment) but this is art" or some crap.
Oh well. I could care less. OoT on the way. Rock on!
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Originally posted by: fatned
I hate to be a negative nancy and piss on everyone's parade, but Lucas isn't doing this because of overwhelming demand, internet petitions, or because he's suddenly been possessed by Shebastian Shaw. It's simply a business decision. Remember this little tidbit:
"The other movie, it’s on VHS, if anybody wants it. ...[] ... it doesn’t really exist anymore."
His lawyers must have shit enough bricks to build a great wall along the mexican border. That statement would make it almost impossible to sue anybody for copying/distributing copies of the real Star Wars. How could he claim damages resulting from someone copying something that "doesn't really exist anymore?" The release of "the other movie" on dvd will change that. He'll be able to claim lost revenues for this dvd. He'll be able to sue anyone copying and/or distributing copies of TRSW and he'll win in court.
He probably wasn't lying when he said the OOT would never be released on dvd. His lawyers on the other hand, after he made the foolish statement quoted above, obviously let him know only an idiot would disown a piece of work that is such a huge money maker. A good lesson for all artists, don't ever disown a piece of work no matter how much you despise it, it may cost you considerable $$ down the road.
On the positive side, at least you get the OOT on dvd like you've always wanted! Too bad you have to buy the crap versions too! But Lucas is still the selfish fat hack he's always been. (Gee, can you tell I still hate his fatnecked guts?)
Ned
I hate to be a negative nancy and piss on everyone's parade, but Lucas isn't doing this because of overwhelming demand, internet petitions, or because he's suddenly been possessed by Shebastian Shaw. It's simply a business decision. Remember this little tidbit:
"The other movie, it’s on VHS, if anybody wants it. ...[] ... it doesn’t really exist anymore."
His lawyers must have shit enough bricks to build a great wall along the mexican border. That statement would make it almost impossible to sue anybody for copying/distributing copies of the real Star Wars. How could he claim damages resulting from someone copying something that "doesn't really exist anymore?" The release of "the other movie" on dvd will change that. He'll be able to claim lost revenues for this dvd. He'll be able to sue anyone copying and/or distributing copies of TRSW and he'll win in court.
He probably wasn't lying when he said the OOT would never be released on dvd. His lawyers on the other hand, after he made the foolish statement quoted above, obviously let him know only an idiot would disown a piece of work that is such a huge money maker. A good lesson for all artists, don't ever disown a piece of work no matter how much you despise it, it may cost you considerable $$ down the road.
On the positive side, at least you get the OOT on dvd like you've always wanted! Too bad you have to buy the crap versions too! But Lucas is still the selfish fat hack he's always been. (Gee, can you tell I still hate his fatnecked guts?)
Ned
Valid points, but you can bet that anyone who's been working on transfers for the last however-many years will get their hands on the Official DVD legitimately - and if you own the home version, and you don't do it for profit...right?
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After a while, a kid joined, who's name escapes me, and started trolling and baiting people into arguments. I'm on several boards, all motorcycle related and had seen my share of the occasional trolls as well as people who go a step further, as this kid did, and choke out a board with baiting. They treat the board and it's members as online entertainment. No big deal, the internet is an awfully big place. The original version of Star Wars was never going to be released on DVD anyway, I'd said my piece regarding Lucas, signed the petition, and even got the troll riled up a few times. So I left the board, only checking in every few months to see if the troll was gone or if there was any interesting discussions going on.
Fast forward to 3:00 AM tonight. I can't sleep, so I get up, check all the motorcycle boards I'm on, read a lot and post on a few. It's been a while since I lurked over here, so I decide to check in. I glance at all the topics and one in particular catches my eye - "The Future Of This Board". I figured the board was soon to shut down because of money problems, a legal hassle with Lucasfilm, or some other reason. It was the first thread I read. I was concerned because this the ONLY place I get my Star Wars information. I'm not concerned with the pro-prequel slant on the official site or The Force site.
After reading a post or two, I start to realize the O-OT is going to be released. In a few months I'll be able to watch the original version of Star Wars. I don't care about extra features, running commentary, menu screens, etc. I just want to put the DVD in, press play, and watch the movie.
Jay, hats off to you. There's no way this board wasn't a part of Fox's decision to release those films. Your level-headedness and your keeping things civilized gave this board credibility. It wasn't just another online bitch session - it was a repository of the thoughts of real people with real ideas and passions for the original films. True fans. I'm not terribly concerned with what the quality will be. A straight transfer of the film or the early laser discs would be fine with me. I just want to watch the unaltered film - no changed characters, no added characters, no added scenes. Just Star Wars, circa 1977.
Glad George finally saw the light - even if he didn't really want to.
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Here I was at Wondercon having to leave the panel because I didn't want to ask a question I knew the answer too.
While I've never had a need to have a DVD version since I rarely rebuy anything, I did say I'd buy these just to show George that the OOT should be preserved. Though I know for certain that the 2004 discs packaged with them will most likely be going into the trash. The only SE version I have is Darth Editious', and it will stay that way.
Fantastic news. Hopefully it carries over to future formats.
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although I got to know this WONDERFUL
news earlier than when I came here.
and by the way, I heard that the OOT will be released for a LIMITED time... (Sept. to Dec.)
and that there also will be a coupon to get the 2004 DVDs... my goodness this man does not
give up does he?
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Wonderful post, Anchorhead. Good to see you back. The troll is long gone, by the way. It's going on three months now, I believe. So sorry that tore you away. And I totally agree. I don't care if the transfer's not as good. I don't need surround sound. As long as they're true to their word, and it's the original original original original theatrical versions (any of the original sound mixes) from '77, '80, and '83, then I'll be happy.
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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http://www.starwars.com/collecting/shop/shopnews/news20060503.html
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Probably not, he wouldn't have anything left to milk then, but who knows?
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Originally posted by: Davis
Is it just me, or did they put back the paragraph about the original title crawl?
http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/news20060503.html
Is it just me, or did they put back the paragraph about the original title crawl?
http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/news20060503.html
Wow, it is back! That makes me feel a lot less unease. I don't know why they took it away, but it was scaring me into thinking they were going back on their position. Maybe they saw us bitch and worry about it enough to put it back. Or maybe I'm imbuing us with far too much power. But it would be nice to think that!
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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What about the bonus disc? They need to make a two disc set for that, disc two being whatever other bonus material isn't on DVD.
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It is illegal to profit from Star Wars without having a licensing agreement from Lucasfilm. Obviously, we have a hard time enforcing this overseas with people selling pirated Star Wars DVDs. The reason we had to finally release the old films on DVD was because of all the illegal pirating going on. We were afraid that if we waited any longer the pirates would completely saturate and take the DVD market away from us.
Anyone know if he really said this.
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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
According to a post on the Star Wars board on IMDB, Lucas said this:
It is illegal to profit from Star Wars without having a licensing agreement from Lucasfilm. Obviously, we have a hard time enforcing this overseas with people selling pirated Star Wars DVDs. The reason we had to finally release the old films on DVD was because of all the illegal pirating going on. We were afraid that if we waited any longer the pirates would completely saturate and take the DVD market away from us.
Anyone know if he really said this.
According to a post on the Star Wars board on IMDB, Lucas said this:
It is illegal to profit from Star Wars without having a licensing agreement from Lucasfilm. Obviously, we have a hard time enforcing this overseas with people selling pirated Star Wars DVDs. The reason we had to finally release the old films on DVD was because of all the illegal pirating going on. We were afraid that if we waited any longer the pirates would completely saturate and take the DVD market away from us.
Anyone know if he really said this.
Not sure, but that's the exact same thing GL said in 2004 when people asked him why he was releasing the OT (SE) ahead of schedule. Who ever it was on IMDB might just be reading an interview from 2004...or maybe not.
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1) Get the untouched OOT on HD-DVD or Blue-Ray
and
2) Get fixed versions of the 2004 release on HD-DVD or Blue-Ray (fixing light sabers and han shooting first)
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I find it hard to belive that there will be a HD-DVD/BlueRay release so soon on the new formats (but I was wrong about the OT never being released on DVD).
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Uhfgood, I hear what you are saying, but I am very wary of LFL's "fixes", either for the sake of the original prints, or those intended to change Lucas' "original" vision. I'd like to get it as unmolested as possible. A blank tapestry would be best.
Uhfgood, I hear what you are saying, but I am very wary of LFL's "fixes", either for the sake of the original prints, or those intended to change Lucas' "original" vision. I'd like to get it as unmolested as possible. A blank tapestry would be best.
In other words you like everyone else who has not replied to me don't want anything fixed.
The color of the lightsaber in the falcon is a very good example. I want it to be consistant, I don't care really what color they choose as long as it's consistant -- actually it would be fairer to say, I want it as close to "right" as possible, which means correcting it along with the other ones, a different color might not do, but if it's tinted less green and more blue, or more green and less blue doesn't matter to me. In fact all the saber shots using the physical lighted device should be replace anyhow imo. The only things I don't like are complete scenes replaced by cg rather than cg enhancements. Or new cantina aliens verses the old ones. The falcon escaping Mos Eisely through the roof instead of "out the back" like in the original. These are the things that urk me. But matte lines should be removed, double exposed elements should be fixed to look opaque, garbage mattes should be removed, etc...
Maybe i'm the only one that wants a "truely" enhanced version, but then again I don't whine alot so maybe that's the problem ;-)
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