"The new DVDs will need a lot of work to look anything like the X0 Project LD transfer." - Zion
"The image of Greedo looks better from the X0 pic as does Shaw." - Knightmessenger
"stoppit ocpmovie!" - Hal 9000
"[image] How about a nice cup of shut the fuck up?" - PaulisDead2221
"You make some valid points, albeit in a cocky yet childish manner." - Zion, privately.
"Roll on September and the beginning of a whole wave of 'LaserDisc Is Dead' projects!" - pupil
None .... could you change your terminology, as it's weird. Don't say LID or non-LID. Say laserdisc, 2004 DVD, 2006 DVD. There, that's easy ...
Sup Doctor M!
>> Btw, the LID screenshots above, are they Classic Edition snaps or the the '04 discs newly color corrected/tweaked.
Newly color corrected. =) I wanted to put the XO project and the 2004 discs on the same playing field, by making them look roughly the same. If the laserdiscs really have some magical quality that makes them OT and not the 2004 DVDs, it shouldn't take two seconds to color correct them to look the same. Heh.
I wanted to show what was possible for future projects. This might springboard some discussion and ideas if the 2006 DVDs really do need any work put into them ... although I suspect they'll be damn good and watchable just as they are.
To compare them to my Classic Edition would be a bit lame as that was my first anamorphic film edit, and I've learned a lot since then. As you might have heard, I was planning a much better version of the Classic Edition, with significantly improved picture quality, before the announcement was made.
I wanted to dispel the harmful myth that the laserdiscs despite their quality have some magical O-OT quality that the Lucas DVDs don't. If we don't abandon laserdisc this site will never get anywhere. Cleaning up an old laserdisc frame by frame, you might as well be cleaning up frames on a VHS tape or Beta when you've got an HD master sitting right there.
I kind of like the idea of using the PAL DVDs. I wouldn't use the sped up sound from them, but the transfer has more resolution and could be fun to transfer to HD even.
And Grinder, let me be the first to say ... what?
"If you're going for the best quality, don't even think about buying the NTSC DVD's. ... any random VHS or LD transfer has more OT spirit than an ESE DVD with some desperate polishing applied to it." - Grinder
WHAT.
Did you say this before in the other thread about my edit? I thought it was Rikter but I guess it was you.
Okay, fine, let's all do our transfers from VHS and Beta from now on. Or Super-8. Any dead format.
=)
"SPIRIT" doesn't matter. "QUALITY" matters. Dead formats have no magical quality to them.
To paraphrase a fat man, that version is on VHS if anyone wants it ...
THE DEBATE CONTINUES AGAIN
"What on earth are you trying to prove?" - Gorram
"Only time will tell if what [Lucasfilm] put out will be any better [than the XO] ... there's no way LFL spent the time and money to clean up the film and resotre the original color like we are." - Zion
"There are only about 270 lines of movie data on a laserdisc ... The DVD captures on the other hand are anamorphic and have a TRUE height of 360 horizontal lines. ... Frankly if I were running the X0 project I'd go dark until September, saving time and money ... anything else is just plain crazy." - Doctor M
"OCP is being a mean-spirited jerk ... X0 headquarters is about as state-of-the-art as enthusiasts can get." - Karyudo