Originally posted by: Warbler
There are no funny sound effects, no over dramatization. Nothing cheap or stupit or over the top. No catchy dramatic theme song. No spectacular stunts or special effects or fake look cgi. It was a very serious movie. I find it difficult to compare it with movie depicting the people jumping out of the WTC using cartoon sound effects. And how can you say they are the same thing when you have called Flight 93 a fiction, and clearly the people jumping out of the WTC is not?
Ric, have seen Titanic? How about Pearl Harbor? Do you refuse to see them as well? Those movie are more fictionalized that this. They did not add a fictional romance in Flight 93 for example.
Originally posted by: ricarleite
Well, the relatives might have been bri... I mean, convinced to allow the movie to take place, ..
Ric, do you have and proof that the relatives were bribed? I find it difficult to believe that the family would be able to be bribed. To jump to that conclusion, insults thefamily members as well as those that died on the plane. If a family member of yours died on a plane that, could you be bribed to aprove a movie about it?
I shouldn't have said it this way. Sorry. But I mean, they were offered money, right?
No, forget the whole 9-11 thing, I am not talking about that. If this happened in a different circustance, I would have said the same. All I'm saying is, that is fiction because the dialogue and actions taken are made up, they don't know exactly what happened. It's made to be a disaster flick, it's like Airplane '77, but taking real people and making up dialogue to conduct the plot dramatically.
Originally posted by: Warbler
Originally posted by: ricarleite
. OK, let's make a movie of people jumping out of the WTC, complete with funny cartoon sound effects. Not so great, eh? Same thing to me.
Well, the relatives might have been bri... I mean, convinced to allow the movie to take place, ..
Ric, do you have and proof that the relatives were bribed? I find it difficult to believe that the family would be able to be bribed. To jump to that conclusion, insults thefamily members as well as those that died on the plane. If a family member of yours died on a plane that, could you be bribed to aprove a movie about it?
I shouldn't have said it this way. Sorry. But I mean, they were offered money, right?
Originally posted by: Warbler
Why do you keep calling it fiction? Do you not believe that the events actually happened? True, no one knows exactly what happened, but we do have the final phones calls to the family members. We know the plane was taken over by Hijackers and that it crashed in the ground in the middle of PA. I doubt that PA was the intended target. Add the facts together and we can conclude the People on the plane attempted to retake the plane and in the process, the plane crashed. Also I have seen the movie, a good portion of the moive was spent on depicting events in the control towers. Those parts were not fiction.
Originally posted by: ricarleite
but my point of view is, I would not like to have a movie made out of my last moments of life, as a fiction, a made-up fiction on how I acted at that moment, for PROFIT
but my point of view is, I would not like to have a movie made out of my last moments of life, as a fiction, a made-up fiction on how I acted at that moment, for PROFIT
Why do you keep calling it fiction? Do you not believe that the events actually happened? True, no one knows exactly what happened, but we do have the final phones calls to the family members. We know the plane was taken over by Hijackers and that it crashed in the ground in the middle of PA. I doubt that PA was the intended target. Add the facts together and we can conclude the People on the plane attempted to retake the plane and in the process, the plane crashed. Also I have seen the movie, a good portion of the moive was spent on depicting events in the control towers. Those parts were not fiction.
No, forget the whole 9-11 thing, I am not talking about that. If this happened in a different circustance, I would have said the same. All I'm saying is, that is fiction because the dialogue and actions taken are made up, they don't know exactly what happened. It's made to be a disaster flick, it's like Airplane '77, but taking real people and making up dialogue to conduct the plot dramatically.
Originally posted by: Warbler
Originally posted by: ricarleite
. OK, let's make a movie of people jumping out of the WTC, complete with funny cartoon sound effects. Not so great, eh? Same thing to me.
There are no funny sound effects, no over dramatization. Nothing cheap or stupit or over the top. No catchy dramatic theme song. No spectacular stunts or special effects or fake look cgi. It was a very serious movie. I find it difficult to compare it with movie depicting the people jumping out of the WTC using cartoon sound effects. And how can you say they are the same thing when you have called Flight 93 a fiction, and clearly the people jumping out of the WTC is not?
Ric, have seen Titanic? How about Pearl Harbor? Do you refuse to see them as well? Those movie are more fictionalized that this. They did not add a fictional romance in Flight 93 for example.
If the movie keeps a serious tone, like a... dramatized documentary, it dosen't sound as creepy and disrespectful as it did when I first saw the teaser trailer at... Memoirs of a Geisha if I'm not mistaken. I am comparing both this way because both envolved loss of innocent lifes.
Both films used fictional characters. I found the movie "Alive" to be VERY disrespectful as well, even though most of them survived.
And ok, maybe it's because it happened recently. If someone asked me to allow for a relative to be a character on such a movie, I would not allow. If this happened to me, I would be one pissed off angry ghost if they did a character out of me. I might be overreacting and twisting thing a little bit here, I agree, but why am I the only one shocked by the porpouse of this film?