Originally posted by: starkillerTwo words:

Submarine Warfare.

True, but even in submarine warfare, you can get a pretty good idea what the enemy sub looks like via recon planes, maybe even sonar hits. I still don't see how you can do a space war and never see the enemy ships even once.

As for the First Contact arugument, I missed all the socalist world view stuff that JediSage talked about. But I will say that it is an ok movie, but mostly forgettable. the Time-Travel element has been overdone in Star Trek. Generations was horrible. Kirk shouldn't of died, and if he did have to, have him die in a better way than he did in Generations, to a better villian.
But to say that First Contact is better than Wrath of Khan, I just don't see it. Wrath of Khan was great.