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Post #202634

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OgOggilby
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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Date created
19-Apr-2006, 3:21 AM
Yeah... it does seem like there's not enough footage where the editor marks are. Even with the crappy spoilers in the flyover, the use of the DVD version is really the only choice to make. It's just a pity they had to be added in the first place. Since the first re-cut had most of the march intact, it doesn't make sense to use the footage twice (although, they did the same thing with the zoom-in right after "TAKE ME TO YOUR MASTER!" with Mighty One-Eye). At least the flyover would exist in unbroken form in the form of its original negative since what appears in the film is duplicate negative thanks to the dissolves.

By the way, I went through the workprint to calculate how much usable finished footage is in the film. It's roughly 60 minutes of fully completed animation (I subtracted shots with full animation but are only tests like the bad line-up shot during the thief's flight or the 360 degree turnaround on the wire). However, if a restoration happened, there's really no reason to not use the finished shot of the thief coming into Yum-Yum's bathroom, the end title, the flyover (granted it's uncut on its negative) or some other shots (like Zig-Zag tripping over Tack and Tack's close-up early in the film) since they're in ones and feature no continuity/drafting flaws. Combined with the springs scene and the extra footage of the Thief trying to steal the jewel in the glass, I'd estimate that at least 70 minutes of finished material can be used. There's probably 10 minutes of stuff that never made it past the storyboards or pencil tests, then another 10 minutes of stuff animated from the storyboards or pencil animation that's unusuable due to continuity errors (Zig-Zag's eyes) or just being crappy animation (TAAAAAAACK!) No idea why Disney keeps hesitating since they basically just need Williams to do about 20-25 minutes of work.