Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
*whisper* Hint, hint, Jag... It's not His death we celebrate on Easter, dude. You're three days too early!
Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
Jesus did NOT believe in justice; to him everyone deserved to be forgiven for EVERYTHING no matter what. When they crucified him, he didn't fight in self-defense because he felt that violence couldn't be justified even by that. So, my point is follows....
Jesus didn't fight back because he was giving his life as a sacrifice for the sins of man, not because he was a pacifist. Remember the Bible also says that he made a whip and drove greedy money changers out of the Temple Mound.
Ok, well I'm not a reliable source so I stand corrected.
You're not commiting evil by fighting for what is good and decent!
You don't have to FIGHT in order to fight for what is good and decent.
Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
THe became a hero and a God to hundreds of millions of people.
Now THAT'S justification.
Jesus did NOT believe in justice; to him everyone deserved to be forgiven for EVERYTHING no matter what. When they crucified him, he didn't fight in self-defense because he felt that violence couldn't be justified even by that. So, my point is follows....
Jesus didn't fight back because he was giving his life as a sacrifice for the sins of man, not because he was a pacifist. Remember the Bible also says that he made a whip and drove greedy money changers out of the Temple Mound.
Ok, well I'm not a reliable source so I stand corrected.
Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
Killing someone in self-defense isn't moral by my standards.
Sure, you say that now, Jag. I wonder if you'd change your mind if someone was running at you with a machette and your only hope was to shoot him.
Absolutely not.
Bollocks. It is not immoral to kill in the defense of self or others, especially those who can't defend themselves. There is such a thing as a just war.
Well I don't believe so, but that's opinion.
Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
The greatest good is committing no evil at all. Jesus followed these morals, and look what happened?
Killing someone in self-defense isn't moral by my standards.
Sure, you say that now, Jag. I wonder if you'd change your mind if someone was running at you with a machette and your only hope was to shoot him.
Absolutely not.
Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
Killing *anyone* for whatever reason isn't moral--ever.
Killing *anyone* for whatever reason isn't moral--ever.
Bollocks. It is not immoral to kill in the defense of self or others, especially those who can't defend themselves. There is such a thing as a just war.
Well I don't believe so, but that's opinion.
Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
The greatest good is committing no evil at all. Jesus followed these morals, and look what happened?
You're not commiting evil by fighting for what is good and decent!
You don't have to FIGHT in order to fight for what is good and decent.
Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
THe became a hero and a God to hundreds of millions of people.
Now THAT'S justification.
*whisper* Hint, hint, Jag... It's not His death we celebrate on Easter, dude. You're three days too early!
Wtf are you talking about? I don't understand what you're saying, I'm not referring to Easter at all. I'm referring to the religion of Christianity!