Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab

Originally posted by: ricarleite

Read my response to Warbler above. I am not talking about democracy, I am asking why are WE right and THEY are wrong.

Oh, dear lord, Ric, please drop the relativist bullcrap. We are right because we believe in the rights of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness for everyone, even those who *peacefully* disagree with us. They are wrong because they riot and kill people over some friggin polticial cartoons, they treat their women like property and slaves, they send their children to blow up civilians in the name of some distant nameless Divinity who supposedly will give them virgins and wine throughout eternity if they kill the infidels! If that isn't evil, what is, Ric?

Relativism isn't "bullcrap," Chaltab. Do you honestly think anyone we've fought against truly thought they were wrong? That they openly embraced the dark side? Of course they thought they were right, just like we think we're right. It's the inability to accept any opposing viewpoint as a legitimate viewpoint that leads to conflict in the first place. Yes, there are many exceptions. I have no idea what the hell led Germany to believe they were justified in the Jewish genocide, but they obviously thought that. Conversely, the fundamentalists you mentioned obviously think we're completely wrong as well for having what they view as a sinful, partying lifestyle with no responsibility and no adhering to the same rules that they so staunchly follow.