Originally posted by: Darth Simon
so did I, unfortunatly i had a break between #10 and #11 and then proceeded to read about 100 spidey comics in about 2 weeks, so i may have totally confused myself cause of a spidey overload.
*edit* though you're not totally correct either. Green Goblin first appears in #14 with MJ's first mention being #15 We then see MJ first in #42
the first issue with hobgoblin isnt until #238. So yeah, i made a mistake, must of been talking about the cartoon where hobgoblin is one of, if not the first enemy spidey fights that got me all confuzzeled, but your info above isnt qhite accurate either
-Darth Simon
Originally posted by: theredbaron
LOL, it's like AOTC all over again!
Yeah, in the animated series of Spider-Man, GG threw MJ into a portal and she disappeared. She returned later on in the series without so much as an explanation, but then I guess, what else is a portal good for, other than safe-keeping?!
they explained it, the cartoon mixed in the whole clone thing, sandman got some scientist to clone MJ but she was kinda like him, but still loved peter and tried to find him...blah blah blah, she ended up not being able to hold her molecules together.
then other stuff happens, some more fun portal stuff, Spidey finds out from Madam Web that MJ is still alive, so the series ends with him setting off to find her. last episode has him go to another alt universe where he meets up with Stan Lee, and it pretty much ends there. they could have taken it to another season, it was kind of a cop out ending
And Darth Simon, what the heck are you talking about? Hobgoblin was introduced WAAAY later in the comics than Green Goblin...in fact, I read the issue that introduced the Hobgoblin nought but a few days ago - GG and Doc Ock were mentioned in the past tense within the first few panels. Funny thing is, the same issue introduces MJ as well!
LOL, it's like AOTC all over again!
Yeah, in the animated series of Spider-Man, GG threw MJ into a portal and she disappeared. She returned later on in the series without so much as an explanation, but then I guess, what else is a portal good for, other than safe-keeping?!
they explained it, the cartoon mixed in the whole clone thing, sandman got some scientist to clone MJ but she was kinda like him, but still loved peter and tried to find him...blah blah blah, she ended up not being able to hold her molecules together.
then other stuff happens, some more fun portal stuff, Spidey finds out from Madam Web that MJ is still alive, so the series ends with him setting off to find her. last episode has him go to another alt universe where he meets up with Stan Lee, and it pretty much ends there. they could have taken it to another season, it was kind of a cop out ending
And Darth Simon, what the heck are you talking about? Hobgoblin was introduced WAAAY later in the comics than Green Goblin...in fact, I read the issue that introduced the Hobgoblin nought but a few days ago - GG and Doc Ock were mentioned in the past tense within the first few panels. Funny thing is, the same issue introduces MJ as well!
so did I, unfortunatly i had a break between #10 and #11 and then proceeded to read about 100 spidey comics in about 2 weeks, so i may have totally confused myself cause of a spidey overload.
*edit* though you're not totally correct either. Green Goblin first appears in #14 with MJ's first mention being #15 We then see MJ first in #42
the first issue with hobgoblin isnt until #238. So yeah, i made a mistake, must of been talking about the cartoon where hobgoblin is one of, if not the first enemy spidey fights that got me all confuzzeled, but your info above isnt qhite accurate either
-Darth Simon
Well, this one I'm holding right in front of me right now (it's an Australian edition, but I don't think that makes a difference), it says it's from 1982, it's The Amazing Spider-Man #6, and it's titled In the Shadow of Evils Past. On the first page it has a caption saying "Stan Lee presents a momentous new episode in the life of the Amazing SPIDER-MAN." And in this comic, a petty criminal stumbles into Green Goblin's (spoken of in retrospect) lair, sells the information to a mysterious man in a hat and coat (who I can only assume is Kingsley), who in turn finds Norman Osborn's diary and goes around to all his secret storage areas, looting them and blowing them up.
This is the dialogue from the scene where he becomes the Hobgoblin:
Well, Norman Osborn may have died, but his legacy -- his power -- will live on! And this time, it shall be shaped by a man who knows how to use power!
"The Green Goblin is no more!"
"But in his place now stands --"
"-- The HOBGOBLIN!!"
That the last two lines are delivered with the Hobgoblin taking up the whole page, suggests to me that this is his first ever introduction.
But here's the thing! Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Felicia Hardy (The Black Cat), and Madame Web, are all mentioned in retrospect, and for some reason I find it hard to believe that all this could have happened in 5 issues!
And earlier on in this comic, Aunt May receives a chance call from her old friend Anna Watson. While they're on the phone, Mary Jane in the background (in a bikini, no less), walks up and kisses her Aunt Anna, telling her to say "hello" for her, and that she's off to the beach.
So there's my conundrum. I too thought that #14 was the introduction of the Green Goblin, and this comic in front of me proves that the Hobgoblin was afterwards - and yet clear as day - it says "No. 6" on the cover! Did they start the numbering all over again at any point?